At about half 10 tonight i smashed my Sierra straight into a curb going sidways For about 3 days the car felt a little soft at the back end but dont really thing this had out to do with it tbh, maybe because it was wet but saying that it was half 10 at night and was taking it easy so dunno
I was going about 40mph ish and the back end stepped out and before i know it the cars bouncing of the curb, fucking kissed it twice weaving about on the duel carridgeway just off a roundabout fucked up man i had to limp home through alot of side streets and the car was crabbing and has a popped tyre aswell.
pics here. Any help is much appriciated, what parts you think will need replacing etc.

Front wheel, this looks light but the steering wheel is now a mile out


The tyre is rubbing on inner wing and the alloy is fucked


This is the main pic to show the damage. whats parts am i looking at needing.

 

Gutted

I would take the car to a tracking centre & get the geometry measured.

Take it the back end hit the kerb first?

I would suspect the rear trailing arm & possibly the beam if the mounts have been bent.
Front track control arm and shock absorber, they bend where the strut goes into the hub.
Check the front ARB & pickup points.

Steering rack may have bent the steering arm, or pushed across.

Maybe a couple of wheels as well

Hopefully won't be too bad, have a good look underneath to see if anything is visually bent, then get it on the tracking machine to see what's out of line.

I'm assuming it's 2wd?

 

Ye 2wd cossie replica. It was the second whack that bent the rear.
Hopefully its not bad i just can't belive it, them poor wheels NOT repairable

 

They proper cos wheels or the Si reps?

 

real deal ones mate so ermmm Ł300 worth of damage just in wheels

 

Bastard , get them skimmed off & painted, and turn them into clocks or coffee tables?

 

The brand in your tyre choice certainly would not have helped either.. Ditch finders..

 

Gutted for you matey.Its time to start spending your money.

 

Worst case scenario is that you bent the pick up points for the rear beam

Get it to a 4 wheel alignment place before you start anything as if you've bent the shell pick up points you will have a mountain to climb

 

The shell should be ok, I had an accident years ago in my cossie and the nearside rear wheel was at a much worse angle than yours.

I thought my cossie was a write off but I thought I'd stick a beam in it and see as I couldn't see any obvious damage to the shell and it was absolutely fine.

You can see in this pic after I removed the beam at how bent it was!!

 

muppet
you should have stuck to the fiesta, you really weren't ready for a grown up motor.
we all knew it would be a matter of time, all that said, easily fixed.

 

Is it my eyes or does the last picture look like the tyres are on or near the wear indicators..?

Gutted mate but probably fixable.

 

Very blunt matey

 

First half decent rwd car, weathers wet and it 'just went sideways' eh?

 

just a bit, follow his threads, you'll see why i responded like this.
he couldn't get hos mk2 fiesta sorted so bought a sierra cos rep, then put it into a kerb because he can't drive.
i do not believe for one second the back broke loose, bad tyres, poor road conditions and lack of talent were to blame here.
i've done the same, i took it like a hero and got the piss taken out of me when i was much younger.

 

I got side swiped in my 4be, direct hit on the N/S rear wheel. Bent the wishbone and the anti roll bar drop link. I changed the beam, both arms and drop links as a precaution. It also destroyed a nice Dymag and a good tyre too. Wheel arch and passenger door took a battering as well so I replaced the door and had the arch rebuilt. Car drives straight with no problems at all.

 

Cossie's with shit tyres is simply a no no...!

 

I don't think taking it to get tracked will reveal anything you don't already know! It's bent!

Get it up in the air and take a look. If anything looks 'out' replace it! Hubs are almost certainly gone I'd imagine, and pray they took the brunt of it and nothing else is damaged.

Obviously get it properly aligned when you're done!

 

I don't see how it can suddenly just step out of line or is there more to this story?

As to the back, you may well find the actual beam is bent, very common if they take a knock to one of the rear wheels.

Also get rid of those wheels, these will make the car handle badly, they are no good for these!

Martin

 

to be honest mate your right, get it up and inspect before you go about alignment.

 

So wot your saying you was coming off a roundabout and the back end came round it and it was wet and you was doing about 40 . Your beam will be bent 100% the wish bone will stand a good chance of being bent . Have a good look at the door gaps on both sides and all so have a good look at the tail gate gaps as the rear of the saffs are not the strongest . And I no of 2 saffs that end up on jigs from doing the same as you have done

 

Agree as it looks like its took a fair whack.

 

It's not all bad news tbh check out my other thread for pics shortly
The beam looks spot on but the arm isn't so looks like the arm (easily seen bent at the bottom which resulted in pushing the shocker closer to the inner wing, which confirms its the arm), and a wheel bearing. The stub axle, drive shaft disc all survived and as for the wheels, i reckon i can salvage them myself.
Anyone got a spare o/s arm

 

True, also they are famed for a "ripple" effect that gets sent down the whole car as a result of a rear end shunt.

Martin

 

Should of stuck to fwd fiestas

 

I can vouch for that lol.

 

A fiesta is a grown up motor...... besides it was around before the sierra..........

 

The arse end will come out on mine if I take a roundabout at 40 in the wet lol

 

wud u sell the sierra now mate

 

But some people's talent runs out after they have started up the car :car:

 

What is up with some of the people on here?!!!

No he shouldn't of stuck with the fiesta he's moving up thro the cars and yes before any says anything I have read thro he's thread on the mk2 and he's learning!!!!

Hypocrites come to mind with a lot of you he has damaged he's car and a selection of you come out with bollox Of oh he should of stayed in a fwd car?!! This is ment to be a forum with like minded people who give out great advice and give you tips about your car not slate the lad cause your on a keyboard!!

Get the car in the air and have a butchers you will be surprised how much the hubs and wheels are desinged to handle some force

Good luck

 

I feel sorry for him... But most of us have fucked up before wether it's our fault or not... But in my eyes them fucking tyres didn't help him... The last one looks like there's a pubes width between the tread and wear indicator..!

So let me keep this brief.... In order to get the best out of you car at the very least it need to be well maintained... That includes tyres

On another note... The above is not a dig mate as I'm truly gutted for you... So chin up and get the bugger repaired and enjoy


AtB Mat.

 

I learnt the hard way that Cossies & cheap tyres don't mix , have to agree woth Matt on that one, really is a false economy!

 

Except this isn't a Cosworth

Martin

 

Still a big old sierra on ditchfinders ...

I have dinked plenty of wheels getting it a bit wrong, it is a learning curve going to RWD

 

Got to agree RWD takes a certain kind of person to grasp... Fucking mega fun tho....

 

I used to love shit tyres in the wet on my old twincam. Was always eventful

On the upside at least its fixable

 

Sorry to hear this, hope you get it back on the road again soon, be more careful next time (find an abandoned industrial estate and practice RWD driving there, there's an art to driving RWD, and the other kinds for that matter)

 

I normally avoid your threads for obvious reason but must say i'm not surprised in the slightest and what a waste of a lovely car.

 

Why are people having a bit of a dig? I know you say look at his other threads but i can't be arsed so can someone summarise?

But irrelevant of his other threads, he's crashed his car and is asking for help not abuse. I bet no one on here can hold their hands up and say they've never had a moment when they've run out or almost run out of talent. Some of us are just lucky and get away with it more than others.