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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 08:12 AM
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Well on monday after fitting my new inlet from crazycage thank you, i had some mapping done on my s2 2.1 zetec was very happy man to come off the rollers with 359bhp an still loads to come but just wanted a safe map to get me to ford fair oh an to sort out a new gearbox lol so big thanks to rob an mick for mapping it you done a great job cheers. Will get pictures up as soon as rob has sent them through. Added some pictures on the rollers





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Sounds good...
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Nice one Rob.

Is this on one of his megasquirt based setups then?
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Yeah the cars on OFAM as far as im aware...
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Nice one Rob.

Is this on one of his megasquirt based setups then?
Thank you all. Yes mate it is on ofam. It is stupidly quick but i love it

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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 11:23 AM
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Wow what a fun car that will be.I bet its a nightmare trying to get the power down through the wheels.
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Awesome! Robs a nice guy and seems he knows how to do a good map too. What boost mate?
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Wow what a fun car that will be.I bet its a nightmare trying to get the power down through the wheels.
You would be surprised mate took Rob out for quick road test an we was very surprised how well it grip so was very happy with that as i thought it would be all over the road but its not at all maybe my power steering help lol
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Awesome! Robs a nice guy and seems he knows how to do a good map too. What boost mate?
Yes mate Rob is a top bloke an knows his stuff thats for sure. Boost is 24psi but after looking at the dyno report he says he will be able to get same power with lower boost an bring turbo in quicker
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Looks hard as fuck mate! What's the spec of the engine?
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Looks hard as fuck mate! What's the spec of the engine?
Cheers mate. 2.1 forged bottom end, crazycage inlet an billet fuel rail, crazycage manifold, adjustable fuel reg, deka 630 injectors, ported an polished head, t3/t4 turbo huge, front mount, external wastegate, ofam management,
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Cheers mate the fact that your happy means a lot

Me and Mike were really impressed with the car, it looks hard as in the flesh!

With a few small changes to spec, and some better boost control we should be able to get the boost down a lot and add some more advance to help spool time. We are rev limiting at 6000 rpm at the moment but this thing just builds power with rpm so well. 400 would have been achievable with a 7000 rpm rev limit but the injectors were beginning to reach there limits, and boost control was becoming an issue.

As Ryan says, this is very fast car already

I've got some more pics to send you at some point when my email stops playing silly buggers.

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Originally Posted by Glenn_
Wow what a fun car that will be.I bet its a nightmare trying to get the power down through the wheels.
Yea, as Ryan says mate it wasn't bad at all, impressed with how well it did. Big sticky tyres helped a lot, and because the turbo is pretty huge the power comes in fairly late so the road speed is generally up enough to minimise wheel spin.
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It's good to see G5TOO back in business! Car looks brilliant! Have fun with it!
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It's good to see G5TOO back in business! Car looks brilliant! Have fun with it!
Thanks mate all the hard work an money is paying off now.
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Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
Cheers mate the fact that your happy means a lot

Me and Mike were really impressed with the car, it looks hard as in the flesh!

With a few small changes to spec, and some better boost control we should be able to get the boost down a lot and add some more advance to help spool time. We are rev limiting at 6000 rpm at the moment but this thing just builds power with rpm so well. 400 would have been achievable with a 7000 rpm rev limit but the injectors were beginning to reach there limits, and boost control was becoming an issue.

As Ryan says, this is very fast car already

I've got some more pics to send you at some point when my email stops playing silly buggers.

More picture nice one cheers Rob. Do you think injectors will be ok if fuel pressure is upped.
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Yes if we increase fuel pressure a little we should gain some head room. These injectors flow circa 900cc/min at 6Bar fuel pressure. The spray pattern doesn't degrade at high pressures either. So 4-4.5 bar should be fine if your fuel system is nice and healthy
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Yes if we increase fuel pressure a little we should gain some head room. These injectors flow circa 900cc/min at 6Bar fuel pressure. The spray pattern doesn't degrade at high pressures either. So 4-4.5 bar should be fine if your fuel system is nice and healthy
Sounds good mate hopefully in couple of months when sorted new gearbox an few other little bits we can get it back on rollers an hit the 400bhp. still not sure about changing turbo as i do love this one an if you reakon you can get it to come in abit sooner ill def be more then happy with that
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I see this there the other day!! looks good in the flesh.wish i said hello now..i was the guy that pulled up behind you at austec in the black audi 5..

Rob seems very knowledgeable and does a good job..

Be carefull though as if everyone finds out thats eps old dd rr they wont believe the power!!lol..

Good power mate!!


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Looks a lovely motor m8!
I bet that moves nicely lol
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Originally Posted by 750hp escos
I see this there the other day!! looks good in the flesh.wish i said hello now..i was the guy that pulled up behind you at austec in the black audi 5..

Rob seems very knowledgeable and does a good job..

Be carefull though as if everyone finds out thats eps old dd rr they wont believe the power!!lol..

Good power mate!!


cheers danny

Haha, the new dyno dynamics seems spot on compared to the one EP had before that any way.... I'll be floating between two dyno's for a bit so i'll have a chance to shove my old BM on both for a reference.

I didn't know you were there Danny or I would have come and said hello! The guys at Austec were really friendly, especially Neil (spot on bloke - dyno operator) so im sure i'll be back there in the future.

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Originally Posted by s2erst
Sounds good mate hopefully in couple of months when sorted new gearbox an few other little bits we can get it back on rollers an hit the 400bhp. still not sure about changing turbo as i do love this one an if you reakon you can get it to come in abit sooner ill def be more then happy with that
Yea, thats cool mate. If you like the turbo and the way it comes in then thats brilliant. At the end of the day its your car so you can choose what you like, power delivery and turbo choice can be a personal preference type thing, I prefer small turbos coming in nice and early for the road but I can definitely appreciate why you like yours


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Originally Posted by 750hp escos
I see this there the other day!! looks good in the flesh.wish i said hello now..i was the guy that pulled up behind you at austec in the black audi 5..

Rob seems very knowledgeable and does a good job..

Be carefull though as if everyone finds out thats eps old dd rr they wont believe the power!!lol..

Good power mate!!


cheers danny

Should have said hello mate.
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Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
Haha, the new dyno dynamics seems spot on compared to the one EP had before that any way.... I'll be floating between two dyno's for a bit so i'll have a chance to shove my old BM on both for a reference.

I didn't know you were there Danny or I would have come and said hello! The guys at Austec were really friendly, especially Neil (spot on bloke - dyno operator) so im sure i'll be back there in the future.

Rob,

Yeah i didnt know who or what was being done on the day..

The dd is so much better than the old maha!!infact there isnt a comparison..

Next time your up there mate drop me a pm and il pop and say hi as im only up the road..



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Yea will do matey, be nice to meet you in person!
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made up for you mate. get a engine bay shot up i still havent seen it.
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made up for you mate. get a engine bay shot up i still havent seen it.
Cheers mate. I will get pictures up of engine im hoping Rob took some. I've sent you a pm aswell Gary
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Originally Posted by s2erst
Cheers mate. I will get pictures up of engine im hoping Rob took some. I've sent you a pm aswell Gary
hey ryan, was really pleased with how it went, im sure i got some engine bay photos and got some vids too but not sure how they came out will get rob to sort em out,
now hurry up and get rid of that chocolate gear box lol
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Looks like a beast! Good power there.
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looks well, sounds like good power too.
60lb deka's will handle extra fuel pressure well, just make sure the fuel pump is in good order.
even an 044 pump is only rated to 5BAR, so 3BAR fuel pressure plus 2BAR boost.
they can handle more, but Bosch do not rate them to run at higher levels for prolonged periods of time. if you get chance to get a 413 pump, grab it, that will run 8BAR all day long, proper motorsport/wrc pump (used in series setup usually for getting the torque those engines require).
i need to get my 2.1 zt on the rollers soon, just fitted a gt3071r, big power to come i think
p.s. just destroyed a t3/t4 in less than four months peaking at 29psi, holding 26psi for the last few miles, i do not recommend going there
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Originally Posted by xr2wishy
looks well, sounds like good power too.
60lb deka's will handle extra fuel pressure well, just make sure the fuel pump is in good order.
even an 044 pump is only rated to 5BAR, so 3BAR fuel pressure plus 2BAR boost.
they can handle more, but Bosch do not rate them to run at higher levels for prolonged periods of time. if you get chance to get a 413 pump, grab it, that will run 8BAR all day long, proper motorsport/wrc pump (used in series setup usually for getting the torque those engines require).
i need to get my 2.1 zt on the rollers soon, just fitted a gt3071r, big power to come i think
p.s. just destroyed a t3/t4 in less than four months peaking at 29psi, holding 26psi for the last few miles, i do not recommend going there
Not a bad shout, sounds a great spec you have too!

I was talking to a Bosch rep not long ago about availability of alternate pumps, the 413 came up but I didn't like the price tag

He basically said that the 044 and the 413 were the same pump, Bosch just grade them. So the really good ones from the batch go in the 413 pile. I suspect they may also use different sundry seals etc too.

There are some really good web pages showing test results from the 044 at various pressures. But I would be happy to see one run 4Bar static rising to 6Bar with boost.

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hey ryan, was really pleased with how it went, im sure i got some engine bay photos and got some vids too but not sure how they came out will get rob to sort em out,
now hurry up and get rid of that chocolate gear box lol
cheers mike i look forward to seeing videos. Yes i trying to find gearbox as we speak lol
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lovely looking car , great power
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