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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 12:11 PM
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Hi,

Mk6 escort Problem as title, i'm thinking gear linkage?

Does anyone know how to adjust these or what the problem might be?

I want to try to sort it today



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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 12:55 PM
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not completely sure on the makeup of the mk6, however if it's on a solid linkage the selector probably needs a little adjustment to push the rods into the selector fork a little.
if it's cable same thing really.
other than that i'd guess at seriously damaged internals of box, but very unlikely.
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 01:07 PM
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I'm tying to find pictures and diagrams for the linkaga as i'v never seen them before and not sure how they work, has anyone got details so i can understand?
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 02:26 PM
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Can't find any decent pictures (Fiesta mk1/mk2? above), yours should look similar to this, and you should see where the shaft used to be situated against the linkage, as it will be rusty. When you push the lever into 1/3/5 it pulls the linkage backwards.

It's moved as it wasn't tight enough when you had the 'box out recently.

If you can move it back to where it used to be fitted it should be close enough, but if still struggling to get any gears , how I normally do them, is put it in 3rd, then slacken the 13mm nut so it moves on the shaft itself then tighten it up. (you need to move linkage forward/backwards on the shaft so you can get any of the 1/3/5 gears before you do this)

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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 03:08 PM
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Ok, thanks for the help. i may go try this now lol
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Ok, Update!

After tinkering about i can now get all gears apart from 1st. 3rd and 5th still don't feel as it should, like it could go forward a little more.

How do i set this linkage properly, where is the 3.5mm locking point?

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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 05:42 PM
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Did you try what I advised? Put it in 3rd then slacken the 13mm clamp, and re-tighten.
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 06:07 PM
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Yes, tried 3rd 5th and reverse each time getting different responces from the stick.

The rod i'm clamping onto has movement if pulled or pushed by hand with force, where should it be set to before i clamp onto it? If that makes sence?

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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 07:11 PM
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If in neutral then the middle of the two movements either direction (as one is 3rd and one is 4th).

Or if setting it with the gearstick in 3rd as described, then pull the rod away from the box then clamp on
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Old Mar 26, 2012 | 07:15 PM
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Back again fella's

Ok, now selecting all gears, turning the wheels and seeing pistions moving up and down so thats confirmed,

Problem is, 1,3,5 gears are not fully enganging i think and it may pop out of gear when actually being driven.

What else could be the probem or is the lining up process down to the mm ?

Also, where is the 4th gear locking point, i want to try that way now?


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Old Mar 26, 2012 | 07:20 PM
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Have you checked that the stick itself hasn't moved on the slotted bolts?these are pretty easy to set up in general.if it's not engaging properly check the linkage has full movement and nothings restricting it.
Odd really as I've seen these old escorts on 400000 miles with the stick like stirring soup with no issues.
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The slotted bolts are under the bag by the stick btw,can't quite remember if the console needs to come out?
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mare you sure the clutch or gearbox isn't fubared?
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Old Mar 26, 2012 | 07:45 PM
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EEK, the release baring is forked i'm sure, Thats this weekends job but i wanted to set gears up now as the engine is comming out weekend to be swaped with the same and i was going to do the baring with the box still in the motor.

Could the clutch being shot stop the gears with engine off?
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Could the clutch being shot stop the gears with engine off?[/QUOTE]

Suppose not but a fcuked gearbox will!!
The proper way to adjust it is put the box into 4th gear then place the gearstick into 4th and centralise it and then tighten the bolt!
If that doesn't work then it ain't the selector / adjustment!
Either way I would pull the clutch out and check it when u take the engine out and obviously replace the release bearing aswell
But if the clutch looks fine and nothings broken up, then I would say box problems!!
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Old Mar 26, 2012 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by turboRS
Could the clutch being shot stop the gears with engine off?
Suppose not but a fcuked gearbox will!!
The proper way to adjust it is put the box into 4th gear then place the gearstick into 4th and centralise it and then tighten the bolt!
If that doesn't work then it ain't the selector / adjustment!
Either way I would pull the clutch out and check it when u take the engine out and obviously replace the release bearing aswell
But if the clutch looks fine and nothings broken up, then I would say box problems!![/quote]









Like i said, it's going into all gears and when i spin the wheeels the pistons travel but 1st 3rd 5th dont travel forward enough and lock in to posistion i think
Where is this 4th gear locking point please, my manual doesn't have this?

Thanks for the help mate!

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Old Mar 26, 2012 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by turboRS
Could the clutch being shot stop the gears with engine off?
Suppose not but a fcuked gearbox will!!
The proper way to adjust it is put the box into 4th gear then place the gearstick into 4th and centralise it and then tighten the bolt!
If that doesn't work then it ain't the selector / adjustment!
Either way I would pull the clutch out and check it when u take the engine out and obviously replace the release bearing aswell
But if the clutch looks fine and nothings broken up, then I would say box problems!![/quote]




Like i said, it's going into all gears and when i spin the wheeels the pistons travel but 1st 3rd 5th dont travel forward enough and lock in to posistion i think
Where is this 4th gear locking point please, my manual doesn't have this?

Thanks for the help mate! Today 09:20 PM
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Old Mar 26, 2012 | 10:10 PM
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there is no locking point!!!
get someone to hold the stick in 4th and ensure it is central and thats it!
after that its just a case of fine adjusting the stick so that when in neutral, the stick is in the middle and not to the side!!
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