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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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For give me im doing this from my phone as i have no pc at the moment.

Well hear goes... i have modified my turrets on my sapph to fit some addjustable top mounts



now where i have cut it down i may need to raise it back up as to not loose any traval either that or make the shock shorter

dose anyone know where to get the WRC type top hats or has anyone got any input as to what i should do?

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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 07:14 PM
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Mine came from Dewitts mate.

When I ran Compbrake items like yours on the Saff I had to change the springs for ones 2" shorter.



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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 07:25 PM
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How much were they Rich mate?
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 07:26 PM
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Ps what was it like with just the shorter springs?
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by miller3
How much were they Rich mate?
They are Ł174 + vat iirc mate.


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Ps what was it like with just the shorter springs?
I fitted springs with a higher poundage as well as being shorter to ensure the shocks didn't bottom out. If anything it was a bit 'bouncy' on rough roads but fine on track.
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 07:42 PM
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Are you getting them mig or tig'd on bud?

Im unsure what to do as it seems criminal do weld them on to a freshly painted shell lol
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by miller3
Are you getting them mig or tig'd on bud?
Turrets have been trimmed and mig welded in place already


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Im unsure what to do as it seems criminal do weld them on to a freshly painted shell lol
Yeah it's a hard decision, luckily for me the bay needs painting anyway.

But looking at the pic you've posted, those will have even less height than a normal eccentric comp brake mount due to the way the sliding adjuster bit is mounted underneath.

How hard is is to match the Racing Turd colour
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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miller, if your worried about the paint, couldnt you cut the hole bigger on the oe turret and then fit the ones like richie posted from underneath and use a cap head bolt and washer on top with nuts on the underside, if you get what i mean lol. as all the weight of the car will be pushing up on them anyway.

that way you could just paint the turret extensions, without screwing the paint on the shell

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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 08:01 PM
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Do you know what, id leave it in primer for now for all i care fpmsl... im going to kick its cunt in on track any how lol

you got any pics of them being fitted mate. i just dont like the thought of all that stress on just the welds but i guess thats what the wrc cars had any who...
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Scrap that iv just read Dans idea lol

good thinking Dan mate il have to look in to that
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Pics are on home PC somewhere


Cut turret top off leaving about 8mm around the edge, then fully welded around the top and stitch welded underneath just to be sure.
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by miller3
Scrap that iv just read Dans idea lol

good thinking Dan mate il have to look in to that

hello dude.

i would not do it like that, there is not much of a lip on the wrc top hat to sit on the under side , all the weight of the cars going to be sitting on a 5mm lip,

on my escort it was painted before i new i needed theses top hats , all that we had to do was blow in the turrets , it was no big deal. if worth doeing the job its worth doeing rightget them welded on.

gordon vincent or mk motorsport will make you the top hats . they would be my choice. dewitts will have the rose joint parts .



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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 08:19 PM
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Rich dose your top mount sit on top and just bolt up?

Dan you aint even got a prity face fpmsl

Im just thinking if it go's underneath we may be taking away some of the adjustability?
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here is mine fitted mate



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im not just a pretty face lol

It was worth staying in for that comment
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steven, that looks a serious bit of kit

personally i dont think it would be an issue if mounted from underneath, but then ive not seen them so cant comment on thickness of the steel used etc.
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my fiesta suspenion tops have the same type top hat but it will allso run with a alloy spacer ring fitted , this will let me run the car an extra inch lower with out messing the suspenion travel

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Originally Posted by Richie.
It was worth staying in for that comment
you can piss off for a start lol

my latest mountain biking incident has seen to that anyway lol as i left half my chin on the road

got nice scar now
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Originally Posted by steven mc kay
my fiesta suspenion tops have the same type top hat but it will allso run with a alloy spacer ring fitted , this will let me run the car an extra inch lower with out messing the suspenion travel

thanks steven

On my Escort the bolts are f##king close to bonnet as it is

Had to borrow some playdough of next doors kids to check it would clear when I put the bonnet down
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Richie.

thats the photo i was lookin for

thanks steven
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Originally Posted by steven mc kay
my fiesta suspenion tops have the same type top hat but it will allso run with a alloy spacer ring fitted , this will let me run the car an extra inch lower with out messing the suspenion travel

thanks steven
now thats an even better idea!

ps how many toys have you got!?
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Originally Posted by Richie.
On my Escort the bolts are f##king close to bonnet as it is

Had to borrow some playdough of next doors kids to check it would clear when I put the bonnet down
same on fiesta richie mate its more or less at its max . very close to bonnet .

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Thanks for your help guys

I hope my mounts will fit under these lol
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Fudgey
now thats an even better idea!

ps how many toys have you got!?

that fiesta is not mine mate its a wrc rally car mc neill motor sport built here in ireland , they buit my old escort , and are now building my new jwrc fiesta to . i sold my escort shell to gatecrasher.

here is escort finished

this is only the stage my fiesta is at , its got a long way to go before its finished lol


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Do it, do it !




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Originally Posted by miller3
Do you know what, id leave it in primer for now for all i care fpmsl... im going to kick its cunt in on track any how lol

you got any pics of them being fitted mate. i just dont like the thought of all that stress on just the welds but i guess thats what the wrc cars had any who...
Oi Douglas i welded them extensions on so no problem with them ever coming off again fully welded top & bottom
the wrc ones will be no good to you though mate the diameter will be to small you will be better off getting some steel rolled to the same diameter as the turret & getting some 5mm profile rings to match the turret & bolt pattern like this
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That sounds expencive Andy bud lol
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Post a picture of a grinder and Andy magically appears
true i got a tingling feeling down my back lol
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That sounds expencive Andy bud lol
profiles would be around Ł20 max & you do not need to roll it you could quiet easily pull it around & tack to profile
what is the pcd of the top mounts you have Doug as i think i got a spare pair any how.
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Originally Posted by andy escos
Oi Douglas i welded them extensions on so no problem with them ever coming off again fully welded top & bottom
the wrc ones will be no good to you though mate the diameter will be to small you will be better off getting some steel rolled to the same diameter as the turret & getting some 5mm profile rings to match the turret & bolt pattern like this
is the turret size not the same on a saff as a escort mate? . doug still has to much of a lip on his suspenion turret ? he could use wrc top hats and change his rose joint top mounts to wrc ones to match the hats ?

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Not sure mate il have to have a measure up
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Where would be the best place to get a turret made up then?
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Originally Posted by miller3
Where would be the best place to get a turret made up then?
wrc ones my choice would be , gordon vincent or mk motorsport mate .

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if they were mine id just get mk to make me a spacer no welding or paint then
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Pm me if you want a ally spacer machining up
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 10:06 AM
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That may be an option but that would require long bolts and the top mount sitting on top, wich is not ideal imo???
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Miller, should those top mounts have 4 bolts holding the adjuster part not just 2 ?
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No mate there is only two bolt holes. i may look into getting it remade with four at a later date.
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