hi guys i have a few questions i could do with some help on. i have 4x4 sapphire cosworth which i believe is supposed to have a lamda sensor. but on the exhaust receipt for my car it says de cat. but im not so sure. it is running lean at the moment soo id like to know if this could possibly affect it.

is this the cat



is this the lamda connector



and is this wher the lamda is supposed to live altohugh as i understand it these now have to be fitted differently


and after all that do i actually need one cheers peeps for taking the time to look

 

anyone?

 

only green top late saffs had a lambda sensor ...late 91 ,,,92 models
your front pipe has a cat ,,so i would say yours should have 1 .. it fits where that blank is on turbo
and that is the lambda connector too

 

Like I said then Paul I thought that was meant to have the lamda

 

it appears you may be right mate just need to know for def if that is the cat. and do i need to get a lamda sensor fitted.

 

you need to see what colour saticker you have on your ecu if its red you dont need a lambda if its green it should have one, but can also be down to what chip is in it aswell if it has an after market chip

that also looks like a std exhaust downpipe for a late saf with the cat there so someone has proberbly smahsed the cat out

thats the correct plug for lambda and it goes into turbo

 

its the green sticker one. its a pts chip not sure who they are was in it wwhen i got it. i was also under them impression you cannot get a direct replacement lamda it has to be moved. is there any way i could tell if the cat is not there.

 

it should have as standard 3 cats ...
1 in downpipe as shown ,,and 2 before the middle baffles..[silencers]

 

ill check if the other 2 are there . does it need a lambda to operate correctly?

 

You need to know if its chipped, and if it is chipped you need to know if lambda function is turned on or off, otherwise you may be wasting your time worrying about a lambda/cat!

 

well its definately chipped stage 1 pts. how can i tell if it lambda is on or off.

 

find out who chipped it?

 

its a pts chip that is all i know. do you think a nmew chip and a setup should sort it.

 

maybe

but you need to really sort the chip out, especially if it's running lean

 

i think yo may be right dojj the question for me is where to take it. im changing the fuel pump and rewiring it next week so that may make a difference hopefully.

 

you'd probably need to put up another post asking who folk would recommened to look at it that are local

but the answer is most probably going to be msd up the road in blackpool if you can make it that far

you may be able to get a local msd dealer type have a look as there are millions of them around the country now

 

PTS are tuners out of Luton, might be worth checking what they're stage 1 includes... but I'd get a new chip in there sharpish TBH.

 

oh, THAT PTS

in which case it's a +1 for getting it looked at asap

 

paul get a msd chip then up to mad for fine tune best money you will ever spend

 

are PTS that bad? i may put new injectors in and then go for a setup or maybe a live map not sure who to use to be honest nms were very helpful on the phone but MAD were good to i think MSD may be a little far.

 

Heard quite a few horror stories about PTS, usually mapping related.

I'd say go with MAD, but NMS gunship stage 1 always been a strong setup...

 

What year is the car? becuase if it is cat testable you are quite limited to tuners who will be able to make the car road legal and pass a cat test, For this to happen it will need to be closed loop controlled.

 

1992k this is the problem but there is no one close by who i can just go to and ask. interpro are down the road and they wanted nearly £200 just to put it on the rollers before they done anything else coupled with the fact i dont really wanna use them leaves 3 in my eyes but they are all miles away.

How do i tell if the cat is still there?

 

The car test will be performed if the car should have a cat on it

But seeig as you don't "need" a cat until 93, you may get away with it

It all depends on which not place you go to and even then the roadside emissions brigade might say something else if you get stopped

 

Sometimes in closed loop control you can just about squeeze them through the cat test, with just the small pre car fitted, (which is in your pic)

The problem you may have, if the car has been running out of closed loop, the cat may well be poisoned and not function.

You really just need to pick a tuner and take the advise they give you, We can go around in circles all day otherwise.

We can do most levels of tune with closed loop control, off the shelf which you can get set up locally if anyone is up to the job,

Or take a day out and pop up to us for a day to complete the work. They are the options we can give you.

What power do you want to reach?

 

whatever is achievable on the standard turbo really, t3 im pretty sure. the only thing putting me off coming to you guys is if anything neds a little tinkering once all is done cos its a fair drive

 

803 greens package is the most your T3 will supply mate, pretty easy to set up we can do it closed loop off the shelf,

 

is that the£650 package i keep looking at

 

The chip will be £250 closed loop enabled, 3bar map sensor is £79, and 803s are £315.00, A set up here is £144.00

Bosch lambda sensor is £60.00 and a fittng boss is £9.00

There are a few variables you will need like a breather system, air filter etc.