Hello

here's a cylinder head i came across and was wondering if any of you can positively identify it.

100£ reward for the answer !!!!

What we know so far :

- There are no markings on the head, apart from a number that is cast into the front of it : 01 12 2100 and below that 157 0
- Cosworth / Hemi Style combustion chamber with mahoosively polished (looks like F1 quality) channels.
- Bronze Valve Guides
- Theres watercooling openings below every inlet and outlet port, also between the exhaust ports. Strangely enough i did see that on FVA's ??
- The split head / camshaft carrier idea has been used on BD's although harvey gibs says this is never ever a BD head.
- The guy selling it to me says he thinks it belongs to a Zakspeed but didnt know if F1 or Capri / Escort Turbo or something completely different...

So what is it ??

My personal feeling is that its from a Zakspeed engine that was used in the capri turbo gr5 back in the day.

 

Im out!

 

I'd have a guess at it deffo being some kind of race spec engine going by the recessed spark plug

 

IMSA Mustang with a ford / zakspeed engine ? can anyone provide details on that ?

 

Judging by the o-rings on the inlet manifold it looks like it was being used for a boosted application, so a BDT specifically in BD terms, so out of the options you are offering there in terms of zakspeed it seems likely it would be the escort turbo.

Do you have pics of the half they have chopped off?

 

We think it was cast like that Chip to run a seperate carrier from new, so no chopped off bit i`m afraid

 

is it a warrior head for the n/a 16valve pinto conversion??

 

Those Grp 5 Zakspeed Capris where boosted, iirc very small(1.5litre) engines.

 

that looks like a variant of the DFV/HB to me. i reckon its half of a pair



maybe ?

 

Yeah, all BD heads are mate.

But there might be some clues on the other half is what I mean!

 

there was a 1450cc and a 1750cc zakspeed capri...

 

If only we had it

 

Have told steveboyslim this thread exists, so im sure he'll be along soon to claim the prize, lol

 

http://trackthoughts.com/?p=1562

this is what it is imho...someone from ten-tenths solved it

 

Certainly seems more likely than it being anything BD

 

I think it's deffo this engine in the GTP, look at the taller part above the inlet ports is the cam carrier, then look at the rear under what could be the cam carrier there's a raised part cast on the head kinda in this shape __| only more rounded, which matches the cylinder head posted above and further backing it up on the same place where the 2 bolts go in is also visible in the pic i've posted.

 

If I look close, I also think it is the same head

 

That is not from any of the Ford BD series of engines ot the FVA/FVC engine which is gear driven with the back half of the timming case cast into the head.
As already stated look like it is from the Zakspeed developed four cylinder turbo engine, the give away that it was used on a turbo engine is the 'O' ring groove on the inlet manifold face.
There were a few of the Mustang engines available in the US a few years ago.
Head is basically worthless, unless you have a need for a bare head casting.
Would make a good lamp stand.

Steve

 

Dont forget to PM micheal your paypal address for the 100 euro reward

 

not worthless if u can find the rest of it

 

I agree, but a doubt it would be viable unless all the parts are in one place.

Steve

PS It will never fit you MK2 escort, that needs a BDG/X or if you want turbo, BDT (with 5-speed ZF and atlas axle).

 

ps. it does fit

lemme rephrase : period correct is a BDG 2.0. then those were mostly used N/A with lucas slide throttle injection. the turboed ones (prototypes
for the later used capri) had BDG's aswell but of course adapted to the turbo.

the twin turbo setup was only ever used on the capri, but not like many say only for testing, it was in active race duty on the 1.4 aswell as on the 1.7 later.

 

plus it must be based on a ford block as zakspeed did not use his own

another slight hickup in the history :

the stroke of the zakspeed 1,7 (supposedly BDG by all books) is 72.75 which corresponds to the twincam engine not a BD.....now go figure....

 

Pictures??

 

aquarious:

it is based on some ford 4 cylinder block, therefore it will be able to go in a mk2 one way or the other.

 

I look forwards to seeing the outcome Micheal.

Got any pictures to show how the rest of the car is coming along?

 

The Zakspeed capri only ever used turbo engines based on the BD series engines, crossflow iron block (machined to suit, 1.3 bored)for the 1.4 and alloy block for the 1.7, Ford tested the RS1700T engine(block) in the Zakspeed capri.
Group 5 regulations, the block had to be from a production engine.

Steve

PS Zakspeed escort never raced with a turbo engine

 

Steve where do you pick up this knowledge?

 

What is it then ?

Also Steve did you get my PM

 

that is completely wrong. the spaceframed escort was used with a turbo engine, theres pics floating around on the net of it being stripped down with the single turbo and aswell racing.

it was the testbed for the capri later down the road.

i did research quite a bit on those as i own the press car.

 

Whats the head off Michael ?

Hows that shell coming along now ?

 

Whats the head off Michael ?

Hows that shell coming along now ?

 

werent them mustangs based on the zakspeed capri chassis with a different body over the top? read somewhere that when they'd finished with the capris they shipped them to america and used them with a mustang shell.

 

I have seen those pictures, I have seen you car.
I spoke to one of the people who worked for Ford and with Zakspeed when they were built and raced.
I was told the escort was never raced by Zakspeed with a turbo as a factory backed car, although tested with one fitted.
The pictures are of a fire damaged car which was fitted with another engine before it caught fire.
We can agree to disagree as I cannot prove any of my information.
If you want a Ford BDT engine there are several available at the moment (not me selling), 1790cc, 1800cc and 1952cc with power output from 480 bhp to 570 bhp although they are built to suit RS200 but could be altered to fit an escort.

Steve

 

Some of my friends worked at Brian Hart (later with Mountune) building the engines when they were a current engine.

Steve

 

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Steve's number is the worlds worst kept secret, as he sells loads of engine parts and is known all over various forums for doing so (I get lots of tuning parts for vauxhall and cosworth engines from him for example like arrow cranks and rods and that sort of thing).

So im sure he wont mind it posted one more time:
07973729171

 

they did in rallycross

 

yes they did the last of the group 5 escorts were space framed & ran turbo motor
this is the remains of a turbo zakspeed escort










came from this

 

Those escorts look awesome.

Were they actually works cars though, as I assume when steve was saying about never raced with a turbo, he means while factory supported.