+-Solved : Mystery Cylinder Head, BD, FVA or Zakspeed ?
29-12-2010, 06:36 PM
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+-Solved : Mystery Cylinder Head, BD, FVA or Zakspeed ?
Hello 
here's a cylinder head i came across and was wondering if any of you can positively identify it.
100£ reward for the answer !!!!
What we know so far :
- There are no markings on the head, apart from a number that is cast into the front of it : 01 12 2100 and below that 157 0
- Cosworth / Hemi Style combustion chamber with mahoosively polished (looks like F1 quality) channels.
- Bronze Valve Guides
- Theres watercooling openings below every inlet and outlet port, also between the exhaust ports. Strangely enough i did see that on FVA's ??
- The split head / camshaft carrier idea has been used on BD's although harvey gibs says this is never ever a BD head.
- The guy selling it to me says he thinks it belongs to a Zakspeed but didnt know if F1 or Capri / Escort Turbo or something completely different...
So what is it ??
My personal feeling is that its from a Zakspeed engine that was used in the capri turbo gr5 back in the day.
here's a cylinder head i came across and was wondering if any of you can positively identify it.
100£ reward for the answer !!!!
What we know so far :
- There are no markings on the head, apart from a number that is cast into the front of it : 01 12 2100 and below that 157 0
- Cosworth / Hemi Style combustion chamber with mahoosively polished (looks like F1 quality) channels.
- Bronze Valve Guides
- Theres watercooling openings below every inlet and outlet port, also between the exhaust ports. Strangely enough i did see that on FVA's ??
- The split head / camshaft carrier idea has been used on BD's although harvey gibs says this is never ever a BD head.
- The guy selling it to me says he thinks it belongs to a Zakspeed but didnt know if F1 or Capri / Escort Turbo or something completely different...
So what is it ??
My personal feeling is that its from a Zakspeed engine that was used in the capri turbo gr5 back in the day.
Last edited by carcollector; 29-12-2010 at 09:30 PM.
29-12-2010, 07:41 PM
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Judging by the o-rings on the inlet manifold it looks like it was being used for a boosted application, so a BDT specifically in BD terms, so out of the options you are offering there in terms of zakspeed it seems likely it would be the escort turbo.
Do you have pics of the half they have chopped off?
Do you have pics of the half they have chopped off?
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29-12-2010, 08:01 PM
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I think it's deffo this engine in the GTP, look at the taller part above the inlet ports is the cam carrier, then look at the rear under what could be the cam carrier there's a raised part cast on the head kinda in this shape __| only more rounded, which matches the cylinder head posted above and further backing it up on the same place where the 2 bolts go in is also visible in the pic i've posted.
29-12-2010, 08:06 PM
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I think it's deffo this engine in the GTP, look at the taller part above the inlet ports is the cam carrier, then look at the rear under what could be the cam carrier there's a raised part cast on the head kinda in this shape __| only more rounded, which matches the cylinder head posted above and further backing it up on the same place where the 2 bolts go in is also visible in the pic i've posted.
If I look close, I also think it is the same head
29-12-2010, 08:19 PM
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As already stated look like it is from the Zakspeed developed four cylinder turbo engine, the give away that it was used on a turbo engine is the 'O' ring groove on the inlet manifold face.
There were a few of the Mustang engines available in the US a few years ago.
Head is basically worthless, unless you have a need for a bare head casting.
Would make a good lamp stand.
Steve
29-12-2010, 08:24 PM
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That is not from any of the Ford BD series of engines ot the FVA/FVC engine which is gear driven with the back half of the timming case cast into the head.
As already stated look like it is from the Zakspeed developed four cylinder turbo engine, the give away that it was used on a turbo engine is the 'O' ring groove on the inlet manifold face.
There were a few of the Mustang engines available in the US a few years ago.
Head is basically worthless, unless you have a need for a bare head casting.
Would make a good lamp stand.
Steve
As already stated look like it is from the Zakspeed developed four cylinder turbo engine, the give away that it was used on a turbo engine is the 'O' ring groove on the inlet manifold face.
There were a few of the Mustang engines available in the US a few years ago.
Head is basically worthless, unless you have a need for a bare head casting.
Would make a good lamp stand.
Steve
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That is not from any of the Ford BD series of engines ot the FVA/FVC engine which is gear driven with the back half of the timming case cast into the head.
As already stated look like it is from the Zakspeed developed four cylinder turbo engine, the give away that it was used on a turbo engine is the 'O' ring groove on the inlet manifold face.
There were a few of the Mustang engines available in the US a few years ago.
Head is basically worthless, unless you have a need for a bare head casting.
Would make a good lamp stand.
Steve
As already stated look like it is from the Zakspeed developed four cylinder turbo engine, the give away that it was used on a turbo engine is the 'O' ring groove on the inlet manifold face.
There were a few of the Mustang engines available in the US a few years ago.
Head is basically worthless, unless you have a need for a bare head casting.
Would make a good lamp stand.
Steve
29-12-2010, 09:10 PM
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ps. it does fit
lemme rephrase : period correct is a BDG 2.0. then those were mostly used N/A with lucas slide throttle injection. the turboed ones (prototypes
for the later used capri) had BDG's aswell but of course adapted to the turbo.
the twin turbo setup was only ever used on the capri, but not like many say only for testing, it was in active race duty on the 1.4 aswell as on the 1.7 later.
lemme rephrase : period correct is a BDG 2.0. then those were mostly used N/A with lucas slide throttle injection. the turboed ones (prototypes
for the later used capri) had BDG's aswell but of course adapted to the turbo.
the twin turbo setup was only ever used on the capri, but not like many say only for testing, it was in active race duty on the 1.4 aswell as on the 1.7 later.
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plus it must be based on a ford block as zakspeed did not use his own
another slight hickup in the history :
the stroke of the zakspeed 1,7 (supposedly BDG by all books) is 72.75 which corresponds to the twincam engine not a BD.....now go figure....
another slight hickup in the history :
the stroke of the zakspeed 1,7 (supposedly BDG by all books) is 72.75 which corresponds to the twincam engine not a BD.....now go figure....
29-12-2010, 09:39 PM
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Group 5 regulations, the block had to be from a production engine.
Steve
PS Zakspeed escort never raced with a turbo engine
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The Zakspeed capri only ever used turbo engines based on the BD series engines, crossflow iron block (machined to suit, 1.3 bored)for the 1.4 and alloy block for the 1.7, Ford tested the RS1700T engine(block) in the Zakspeed capri.
Group 5 regulations, the block had to be from a production engine.
Steve
PS Zakspeed escort never raced with a turbo engine
Group 5 regulations, the block had to be from a production engine.
Steve
PS Zakspeed escort never raced with a turbo engine
it was the testbed for the capri later down the road.
i did research quite a bit on those as i own the press car.
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30-12-2010, 07:02 AM
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that is completely wrong. the spaceframed escort was used with a turbo engine, theres pics floating around on the net of it being stripped down with the single turbo and aswell racing.
it was the testbed for the capri later down the road.
i did research quite a bit on those as i own the press car.
it was the testbed for the capri later down the road.
i did research quite a bit on those as i own the press car.
I spoke to one of the people who worked for Ford and with Zakspeed when they were built and raced.
I was told the escort was never raced by Zakspeed with a turbo as a factory backed car, although tested with one fitted.
The pictures are of a fire damaged car which was fitted with another engine before it caught fire.
We can agree to disagree as I cannot prove any of my information.
If you want a Ford BDT engine there are several available at the moment (not me selling), 1790cc, 1800cc and 1952cc with power output from 480 bhp to 570 bhp although they are built to suit RS200 but could be altered to fit an escort.
Steve
30-12-2010, 07:13 AM
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30-12-2010, 11:20 AM
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Steve's number is the worlds worst kept secret, as he sells loads of engine parts and is known all over various forums for doing so (I get lots of tuning parts for vauxhall and cosworth engines from him for example like arrow cranks and rods and that sort of thing).
So im sure he wont mind it posted one more time:
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So im sure he wont mind it posted one more time:
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30-12-2010, 12:24 PM
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The Zakspeed capri only ever used turbo engines based on the BD series engines, crossflow iron block (machined to suit, 1.3 bored)for the 1.4 and alloy block for the 1.7, Ford tested the RS1700T engine(block) in the Zakspeed capri.
Group 5 regulations, the block had to be from a production engine.
Steve
PS Zakspeed escort never raced with a turbo engine
Group 5 regulations, the block had to be from a production engine.
Steve
PS Zakspeed escort never raced with a turbo engine
this is the remains of a turbo zakspeed escort
came from this
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