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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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Not going to get the yellow clio done till next winter as Ive got a couple of cars I have to finish before I can start it (my nova and corsa) so to allow me to use my "pikey motorsport" blue clio still this year now that I have sold off my throttle bodies (to help fund the yellow clio) I decided to knock up a new inlet for it rather than go back to a standard one.

I had a spare carb manifold lieing around, and a spare pulsar plenum that Doug (garage19) had previously modified to bend the inlet to it back to clear the ABS on my calibra which just happens to sit it ideally for what I want, and Neil Adams still had the drawings for the spacer and backing plate when we did a similar inlet on his turbo westfield, as he has been selling them to people, so he got another set made up for me as a thankyou for mapping his car.

Adam (aka dewis motorsport) is going to weld me on a flange to take a cosworth throttle body as Ive said I'll map his car as well, so fingers crossed all its going to cost me in actual money is price of a secondhand cossie throttle body for the whole job

So this inlet actually owes me nothing but a bit of time and reciprocated favours which is far more in keeping with my budget theme for this particular car than the throttle bodies ever were, lol, and its coming along nicely so far.


This is how it looks mocked up on the car to check it will all fit:








Could be ran on the standard clio management now too as it can give a map sensor signal like the standard management requires, but im not going to remove my Mtec V4 from it as Im too fond of it and I havent got an emulator to map the standard management with anyway.

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Why are you changing it chip?
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 04:30 PM
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did mine today also



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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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Why are you changing it chip?
Im changing it from having no inlet to having an inlet, as it will mean I can drive the car.



Gary, looking good

Hope it gives you similar results to what I got on my nova with it
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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Justgot text chip... Obviously I didn't lol!
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 05:07 PM
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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Chip i think i have a 4x4 tb at home if you need it
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 07:26 PM
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Yes please mate if its got the whole throttle linkage on it (thats all my spare one is missing), PM me how much you want
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 07:49 PM
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If I find one mate you can have it as well,just cover my postage.could be a while before I find it though!!!
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Lol, ok mate.

Wouldnt expect it for nothing though, quite happy to pay
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Old Dec 30, 2010 | 11:27 PM
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Awesome. That looks the nuts! It properly will not be much less powerful either!
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Old Dec 30, 2010 | 11:43 PM
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Yeah I dont think power will be effected much from the swap from ITBs to this setup.
Acedemic anyway as the rings are on the way out, so i'll lose far more to that

Hopefully still give your clio a run for its money at bedford though
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 12:01 AM
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what did you nick the plenum cover from ?
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 12:01 AM
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how comes a few people have started these on other cars?
im guessing, cheap and a good flow rate?

any use for zetec turbo use?
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Its a pulsar plenum
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by mrviper
what did you nick the plenum cover from ?
Nissan Pulsar GTiR mate
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Originally Posted by focusrrx87
how comes a few people have started these on other cars?
im guessing, cheap and a good flow rate?

any use for zetec turbo use?

Cheaply available and well shaped means they make a lot of sense for retrofitting.

Would be great for a zetec turbo im sure.
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by focusrrx87
how comes a few people have started these on other cars?
im guessing, cheap and a good flow rate?

any use for zetec turbo use?
i have seen a few fitted to zetecs, neil from fast ford used to run one.
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 08:31 PM
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Got some more pics now that its finished, showing the trumpets and the work done by Adam Dewis (dewis motorsport) for me to fit up the cossie throttle body, he made up a flange, welded it on and put some steel rivnut inserts in it for the body to bolt onto







Just need to add in a map sensor pipe somewhere now, find a filter for it and get a new gasket and it should be ready to fire up so I can remap it, so hopefully get a day free to do that in a few weeks when I have some time off work.
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 08:42 PM
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Fair play Chip, you clearly love working on cars and appear to be fairly talented at most things. Have you ever thought of doing it full time or are you in a pretty well paid job now so its just a hobby?
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 08:50 PM
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Fair play Chip, you clearly love working on cars and appear to be fairly talented at most things. Have you ever thought of doing it full time or are you in a pretty well paid job now so its just a hobby?
I dont think there is much money to be made in the sort of stuff I do TBH mate, its all too time consuming and low value, well other than mapping I guess which potentially I could make a few quid at.

For now I have a couple of reasonably well paid jobs, main one is 4 days a week as an IT consultant for lexus and toyota and then a part-time job as a freelance motoring journalist for the rest of my time. So certainly for now it makes more sense as a hobby, maybe one day, but TBH I think that having to do what the customer wants rather than what I want to do would just piss me off

Me and a lot of my mates all help each other out though which is cool, like for example Adam who made welded up the inlet for me FOC has a corsa on DTA that he needs mapping soon which I'll do free for him etc.
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 08:53 PM
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Great looking manifolds

Where'd you get the base plates from? They look to be laser cut or water jetted.
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 08:57 PM
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A mate of mine has them made up after he used them on his Westfield.

It was his car I first suggested it for and he figured once he had gone to the expense of getting one made up he may as well flog a few off to cover the costs.
Its not just a backing plate though, if you look its a got a 12mm thicker spacer plate as well sat between the backing plate and the plenum so that the trumpets have more clearance.
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 08:58 PM
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Looking good chip. Hope to see you at some show and track days.

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Originally Posted by daveandhelenturbo
Looking good chip. Hope to see you at some show and track days.

Dave

Sounds like a plan mate, although TBH I doubt i'll be over as far as brands anytime soon with it as its a bit of a mission from my place, so only really worth it if on the full circuit.
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looking good mate. just been out in the sierra lol, it still works so if i can get it mapped a bit more, wink wink, ill make bedford

gotta get the tracking done tho, its all over the shop
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Pop down the week after my birthday sometime if you like mate as thats when I have some time off (5th feb onwards)
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What's the benifits to this over a standard clio manifold then chip?
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 09:15 PM
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Lighter, easier to work on the engine with, and hopefully make a fair bit more power.
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nice one mate, ill let you know once its had the tracking setup.

looks like im going to have to use it for work next week, so it better fooking work
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Crikey, good luck
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hence tonights test drive lol. should have a new set of rear lights and astarter motor tomoz...

so just needs tax and the above lol.

its only 10 miles each way, but i think its pissing through fuel lol so only gonna get 50 miles to tank or something
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Fidget. Fuck using that for work, you're nuts

Plenum looks good chip
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Cheaply available and well shaped means they make a lot of sense for retrofitting.

Would be great for a zetec turbo im sure.

Yup. ST170 plastic, bit of silicon hose and your in. They don't line up 100% perfect, but not a million miles off either. Mine was fine on it, decent response, well made, pushed good power out of the engine. Ran it for over a year with one. Worthwhile cheap mod if after an inlet.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 10:43 AM
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Fitted my new itb's and big thanks to Spiky for the wiring job he did last week, allmost all back together now and getting ready for donnington in march







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Fudgey Fuck using that for work, you're nuts

Plenum looks good chip
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lights and starter motor arrived yesterday lol..


watch this space
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