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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 06:27 PM
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I sold My van 12 months ago, the guy wanted it asap and the nearest dvla office to me is about 80 mile trip. So i agreed to sell him the van but i wanted my plate back. Being self employed i needed a replacement asap so sold my van on a saturday morning and arranged to pick my new one up on the sunday. Anyway i travelled with the van to a train station 40 miles away, didnt have to but the only way he could come and collect it(This was last year when the country was covered in snow) Was trying to help the guy. When i sold it to him he paid me and i said as a gesture of trust i gave him the amount of money back to put the plate on retention. Weeks past and he said he was waiting for log book to come back. My new van log book came back within 7 days!!! Months past and past, full of promises that he was going to do it. No joy. I got fed up of waiting after 9 months and put a post up on the forum i sold on it about him,and he txt me to say he was going to see a solicitor about me slandering him. Prick. I gave the guy the original plates back and told him to remove my plate asap(illegal spacing, ive had no bother with it in over 10 years). The guy also txts me and says he as be fined for illegal plates, ive no sympathy as i told him to remove them and as soon as he bought the van it was his responsibilty. so he says im selling the plate to go towards the fine etc. The plate isnt worth a fortune etc but its been on my vans for 10+ years and people recognise me easily by it. I know hes not obliged to return it or anything but im really frustrated that i trusted someone and they just shit on you, specially after i delivered it and gave him the money for the retention. I know there is nothing the police can do but the guy said he will scrap the vehicle when its time to and i will lose the plate.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 06:30 PM
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Bit of a shit situation.

I've been shit on a few times in the past, so now I trust no fucker apart from a couple of very good mates, can't go wrong that way.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 06:32 PM
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what a tosser he is
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 06:36 PM
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what a tosser he is
Hes from the north east. :-(
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 06:40 PM
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what van is it mate whats the plate if you dont mind putting it up
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 06:41 PM
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name and shame him,someone on here might know him and help out!
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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Sorry to say,as you know you have no claim to plate,and must be a bit green behind the ears to trust a stranger with some thing worth money,that they have a legal claim to,out of interest what was the plate ? think you will just have to swallow your pride and forget about it

cheeRS stu

ps sorry to sound so harsh ,but this is the world we live in
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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let him scap it and then apply to the dvla to buy it less hassle in the long run
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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there is another person on this forum that sold his car quick with the plate and cant get hold of the bloke anymore and so lost the plate

the private plate rule is total bollox IMO and needs to be looked into better
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 08:10 PM
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i know it's not the ideal way(or probably the most legit way)..........but you could apply for the log book Ł25 and a couple of forms from the dvla. once that's done maybe get a duplicate tax disk and then go to the dvla office and put the plate on retention or onto your new van. As i said i doubt it's the best way of doing it but is one way of doing it !!!!!
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Ginge !
there is another person on this forum that sold his car quick with the plate and cant get hold of the bloke anymore and so lost the plate

the private plate rule is total bollox IMO and needs to be looked into better
they wont get rid of something they make a bit of money out of, transfers, retentions, its all extra coin for them.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sideways saff
i know it's not the ideal way(or probably the most legit way)..........but you could apply for the log book Ł25 and a couple of forms from the dvla. once that's done maybe get a duplicate tax disk and then go to the dvla office and put the plate on retention or onto your new van. As i said i doubt it's the best way of doing it but is one way of doing it !!!!!
the dvla will send the owner a letter asking him if he knows about the new owner

cant you just offer to pay the fine/sort the issue just to get your plate back,,,, then when it is done kick the fucking shite out of the motor and cut off his dogs head and put it in the end of his bed........

even just the first option on its own
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sideways saff
i know it's not the ideal way(or probably the most legit way)..........but you could apply for the log book Ł25 and a couple of forms from the dvla. once that's done maybe get a duplicate tax disk and then go to the dvla office and put the plate on retention or onto your new van. As i said i doubt it's the best way of doing it but is one way of doing it !!!!!
I had thought about this lol. i did give him a receipt and he as taken the retention money so this cold be theft if he hasnt fulfilled his side of our sale agreement.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Ginge !
the dvla will send the owner a letter asking him if he knows about the new owner

cant you just offer to pay the fine/sort the issue just to get your plate back,,,, then when it is done kick the fucking shite out of the motor and cut off his dogs head and put it in the end of his bed........

even just the first option on its own

i've done this with cars i've bought from mates who have lost the log book and the dvla state they will inform the owner but they have never ever recieved anything, so there is a chance
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by S3an
I had thought about this lol. i did give him a receipt and he as taken the retention money so this cold be theft if he hasnt fulfilled his side of our sale agreement.

if there is a reciept then it is theft if he has taken money for something that he hasn't done
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BLACKCOS
let him scap it and then apply to the dvla to buy it less hassle in the long run

DVLA not sell a plate once a car has been scraped.


not good what he has done. it does learn you the hard way not to trust people.
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ginge !
there is another person on this forum that sold his car quick with the plate and cant get hold of the bloke anymore and so lost the plate
That me Ginge? If so you're part right. Currently in communication with the current owner who says he's sorting it. Reminds me I need to check what stage he's at - as we last spoke 2 weeks back.

Lambchop was helping me sort it, hopefully have some good news to report soon

Sorry to hear about your situation Sean, it's a pain when you want a quick sale and have a plate still on the car. I've learnt from experience the plate comes off before the car goes up for sale.
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 07:50 PM
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yeah, didnt wanna say who just incase you manage to sort it out, which im glad as FOF is a great plate but not as cool as S18 CYA
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 10:23 PM
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It amazes me how some people are prepared to gain an enemy over a few quid.

At the end of the day if he's not willing to stick to what you agreed then he should be willing to accept what ever might happen as a result. Id offer to pay for the fine as a gesture of good will (Ł30 fixed penelty at guess?), and then see what he says. If he still doesnt want to play ball, then decide what to do next.
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by S1rst
It amazes me how some people are prepared to gain an enemy over a few quid.

At the end of the day if he's not willing to stick to what you agreed then he should be willing to accept what ever might happen as a result. Id offer to pay for the fine as a gesture of good will (Ł30 fixed penelty at guess?), and then see what he says. If he still doesnt want to play ball, then decide what to do next.
Will be Ł60 all fines have went up yo this seat belt, not defrosting the car properly etc
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 09:06 AM
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terrible when you trust someone and they let you down.....sound familiar Sean.
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 09:15 AM
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Not good mate but unless you have a signed receipt outlining the plate agreement signed by both parties you are well and truely fucked.

Rule 1 in business trust nobody and assume everybody is a lying cheating bastard. Always stood me well
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Old Dec 26, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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Unfortunately mate these things happen.

When I sold my runabout Volvo last month I did the transfer prior to sale - as the new tax disc/mot etc hadnt come back the car went to the new owner with my private plate on but obviously everything was in progress to transfer it onto my Omega. The lad met up with me a fortnight later so we could swap the plates back to the originals, but if he had ignored me etc then I would have been able to take action as that plate showing on the Volvo would have been registered to a completely different car !!

I did give him a receipt stating that it was sold minus the plate however (also to cover him due to the fact I had no log book whatsoever as the DVLA had it, it worked this time but some people might be funny about selling a car without a log book )
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