Just wondered :s

 

delusion

 

To me if you have to work for a living your working class

 

both work... one just thinks they are a bit better than the other.

 

working class are us people in normal jobs,

middle class people are the ones who think they are better than they really are.
usualy in civil servant type jobs i guess

usualy the ones who drive chelsea tractors.

im surrounded by them in islington and stokenewington.

 

The lines are massively blurred these days.
IT for example, could be anywhere along that line.

Historically though anything you required a degree or similar level of education for tended to be considered a middle class job effectively.

In army terms, sergeant = working class, officer = middle class.

 

I ask because there a programme on BBC2 now about Starting you own school etc keeps saying he wants it to be for middle class people etc have heard him say middle class a hundred times in the last 10 minutes, seems to be a right twat

 

right twat is a good description of all people who specifically make a point of referring to themselves as middle class all the time

 

Middle class are wankers with small cocks who drive convertable mercs etc

They think there the bollocks but have more dept than india

 

this must be the programe Danielle was talking about last week. said the guy kept making reference to the viewers being middle class, like him

 

I believe the working class, middle class and the rich is slowly becoming just the working class and the rich.

 

Debt isnt typically a middle class thing, what you are talking about is a different breed of wanker entirely.

Middle class are more likely to be driving a range rover towing a horse box than a merc convertable, thats just flash twats

 

 

about four bank accounts, three houses, and two vehicles

 

yer, he keeps saying he's middle class and the bunch of people in it with him also. But I ca't understand how or why as they are no better off than me? He refers to people on estates whether they are council house or private as working class, thats why I asked. His defenition seems to be where you live.

 

The BEST thing I've ever seen about this topic was Prescott's documentary on the class system.

He asked some scuzzy single mum living in a hostel on benefits if she thought she was middle or working class and she said middle "Cos I ain't working am I".

 

Your right there about middle class towing horse box, then you have the upper class that have a 10+ year old Defender that stinking dirty and running around in old tweed That dont care at all about potraying image.

Funny really. I think class divides are not as bad as they used to be, however are still there.

 

i live in a council block however my next door neighbour owns his flat ( 250k property) he is also the director of his landscaping business, has posh cheese delivered to his flat, has his fruit and veg delived by able and cole.
drives an audi a4 s-line, very well spoken, mrs is a teacher. they are part of the area council team i consider them to be very middle class and he lives in a flat? am i wrong for that

 

forgot to mention he has a cleaner aswell, lol

 

middle class have 40 inch flatscreens

working class have 60 inch flatscreens

This is going by the house's I work in

 

Working class are us people who work like fook for a living just to barely survive. Ie making just enough to pay the morgage and the bills.

 

Lucky for some im on my second hand me down tv lol. I dont even have a proper roof aerial lol.

 

That maybe due to you owning a Cosworth money pit?

 

How about 50 inch flatscreens?

 

Mines also 50 inch lol

 

working class work hard and party harder
middle class work less for more money and cant handle the "stress" and die early due to worrying about fook all
upper class drink far to much pimms, play too much croquet, have butlers called jeeves and say "what" "boundah" and "cad" far too much

 

Working class work hard all year to afford a nice car and holiday outright each year.

Middle class stick it on a credit card, boast about it, and then spend 2 years paying it off

imo..

 

one works to live the other lives to work lol!

 

my thoughts on middle class is where father works a decent job, mum has alot of time to herself, talks a bit posh, kids who think they are from the ghetto but wouldn't last 5 minutes in a rough neighbourhood and secretly know it.

 

afew of your comments have been spot on

nothing worse than some one who classes them self as middle class, an rubs it in ya face. tbh i had a good one when i was 18 my mom died of cancer an i had a totally payed for house with money left to me. had some posh div in the bank looking down his nose at me because i was in joggers a looked like the local chav lol he passed over a comment to the cashier saying 'coming to put his gyro in him' an as i knew her she went no actually unlike u he aint got 50k worth of debt but has a house an a lot of money in the bank. needless to say he left dragging his jaw an the cheap pin strip suit out to his financed audi tt an best bit he couldnt look at me. love them situations lmao

 

 

Middle class people are likely to be doctors and lawyers and not in need of much credit, well other than maybe for school fees

 

and which school are you at at the moment??????????????doh!
how old are you that you dont know the difference?5??

 

Guessing that wasnt aimed at me but just in case as it was after my post:

Not at a school, although like to learn things still, so in that respect everyday is a schoolday, and im 35, lol

 

According to Chip they are paid enough for what they do


Luciano

 

They are paid all that they are worth for what they are doing, same as anyone else is.

If they dont like that low level of pay, then they should change to another job that has a higher level of pay, IF they can be bothered with the work required to get there in the first place of course, rather than just moan uselessly about it

 

LMAO at the middle class work less comments. How do you think they ended up in the middle class?

 

growing weed....

 

I saw that, classic line. Can't believe he kept a straight face when she said that.

 

So why the bloody hell do you own a cossie? If things are that bad the last thing you need is some sort of car owners status symbol!