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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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Default I had a shot of a "400" spec FRS mk2 tonight

Wow is all i can say!!

My mate Greg has had the car since a year past June. The modding started immediately with a full mongoose and decat which livened the car up a little.

This progressed with a bluefin map and then appeared a new front mount intercooler(i forget which). Bluefin released a "stage 2" map which he downloaded.

I only got my first spin in the stage 2 350 ish bhp spec last week and was VERY impressed. Still no drama under power and the front wheels coped and put it down ok.

Anyway last week he went to JW Racing who specialise in flash handsets coming from volvo tuning in Sweden. Along with the new map he added bigger injectors and a mountune airbox to give a guesstimate 395 bhp. Apparently a £500 carbon airbox would see 400 bhp but fuck that

Tonight he came round and took me out. FUCKING HELL it's really really good. Still copes ok with little wheelspin if you feather 2nd a little. Red line is now 7100 and is still pulling near 370 bhp at that. It hardly drops off. The instant pull when you change gear is immense with no lag. Even in 5th gear it's pulling like it did in 3rd.

I had a little drive myself and it's fucking awesome. I dare any FWD hater to get in a car at that spec and try saying it's too much power for fwd.

I want one!
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 08:38 PM
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PS the car is MILES better on this map. Makes the bluefin look and feel cheap and nasty. The off boost drivability is spot on. At idle it has less of a gurgle and lumpy idle. It's as if this is the real deal map and everything has been ironed out so it's not just boost and fuel happy!
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awesome cars, loved driving mat's and that was only standard bet they go well @ that power !
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 08:46 PM
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No doubt the FWD haters will be along to tell you it should be 4x4, and it will torquesteer blah blah fucking blah

FWD or not, i LOVE the MK2 FRS
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What sort of cost is involved in putting those bits on a standard FRS to take it to that level??


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No doubt the FWD haters will be along to tell you it should be 4x4, and it will torquesteer blah blah fucking blah

FWD or not, i LOVE the MK2 FRS
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went out in Gregs car earlier this year, just as a passenger, was impressed then, bet its great now!
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Chop I've been in my mates 380bhp one in the wet and the grip from it is immense. A load of us went to rolling road in Wishaw and had a few wee races on the road up. We were doing WELL over 170 and still pulling hard
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Chop I've been in my mates 380bhp one in the wet and We were doing WELL over 170 and still pulling hard
Sorry, but ???? with 380bhp WELL over 170...........
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Originally Posted by Pete 3dr
Sorry, but ???? with 380bhp WELL over 170...........
meant to do 163mph as standard so cant be far off?
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Originally Posted by danneth
meant to do 163mph as standard so cant be far off?
But that aint well over 170 is it?? takes alot of power just to eek out 15-20mph or so...
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Originally Posted by danneth
awesome cars, loved driving mat's and that was only standard bet they go well @ that power !
Yup it hardly takes away from the experience or makes it worse and too much of a handful. Quite the opposite, it just makes everything even better

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No doubt the FWD haters will be along to tell you it should be 4x4, and it will torquesteer blah blah fucking blah

FWD or not, i LOVE the MK2 FRS
Me too. People just have no idea and most of them wont even have been in one. Fuck em

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What sort of cost is involved in putting those bits on a standard FRS to take it to that level??


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Not sure G man. I'm sure exhaust and decat was £650 ish?! Maybe even more. Mountune airbox is £140 ish. Ic £400 at a random guess. I think the map injectors and airbox+fitting were circa 1k.

£2.5k maybe all in?


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Sorry, but ???? with 380bhp WELL over 170...........
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Originally Posted by P_is_for_Paul
Chop I've been in my mates 380bhp one in the wet and the grip from it is immense. A load of us went to rolling road in Wishaw and had a few wee races on the road up. We were doing WELL over 170 and still pulling hard

yeh come on paul us that a mis type there.
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i dont believe they will do well over 170mph either
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clock speed i believe they will
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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great cars, even better with 400bhp

you should try one on a big turbo Chop
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Many people think the Focus RS is a 170mph+ car. People who have reviewed it and taken it to top speed said the needle was off the meter and still pulling so i wouldn't doubt it can hit 170.

+ Being in one on a regular basis and judging off how it goes, especially in 3rd and above, I wouldn't be surprised.
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These cars seem do do poor 1/4 times due to being limited in 1st an 2nd

What times are they setting without the limitations?

Sounds quick but is it actually quick?

PS im not a hater I ve just heard a lot or people say they are shite on the quarter

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there a heavy car for the quarter mile, on fast road/tracl there awesome, sub 8 minute laps at the ring now
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Originally Posted by DazS1Turbo
These cars seem do do poor 1/4 times due to being limited in 1st an 2nd

What times are they setting without the limitations?

Sounds quick but is it actually quick?

PS im not a hater I ve just heard a lot or people say they are shite on the quarter
That's the only bitch thing. You can feel when the full amount of torque is available when you're in 3rd. 1st and 2nd really does throw you off. In the first 2 gears the power is really smooth and then 3rd, you really feel it in the gut. Character changes for sure.
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Originally Posted by GUZZLER
great cars, even better with 400bhp

you should try one on a big turbo Chop
Matt doesn't it get ruined with more lag or can it be eliminated? I'm super impressed at it like it is and with no lag, lots of power, just floor it and its off. I wish i'd straight lined it against my evo. Unfortunately he goes back to Angola tomorrow. Might have to try it when he gets back purely for educational purposes

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These cars seem do do poor 1/4 times due to being limited in 1st an 2nd

What times are they setting without the limitations?

Sounds quick but is it actually quick?

PS im not a hater I ve just heard a lot or people say they are shite on the quarter
Greg says there's one other guy in Scotland running this map and he did a 13.1 at crail on sun. Crail surface is WANK so i think thats ok. 126 terminal guess was mentioned.
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PS everyone STFU about 170 mph. Im pretty sure Paul would've meant on the clock and didnt have his datron timing gear out

Plenty folk bang on abou 170 on the clock in their cossie when limiter in 5th is about 157 genuine.
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Pardeep, you get your mates one up to us, we'll liven it up!
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mine was awesome to drive and loved every minute of it.

dan do you still have the vid of me coming past your house in the wet.?

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Do any of the maps have the ability to override the torque limiter in 1st and 2nd? Does it still manage to spin up quite a bit in the first two gears then? Could you use a standalone boost controller for the boost? Just wondering...
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Chop, lag is not bad, being a doubting Thomas i wasn't sure, i knew it wouldn't be as bad as a cossie as it has a bigger engine, but i wasn't sure if it would be ok, we got the big turbo on before last Christmas, first drive & i was impressed, tiny bit more lag but pulls hard to the limiter.
is your mate 'Scottish Greg' on the forums? theres another Greg with a green one (Maxwell on the forums) i was told him & Simon @ Sitech were having a good hack at Knockhill
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Originally Posted by Lambchop
PS everyone STFU about 170 mph. Im pretty sure Paul would've meant on the clock and didnt have his datron timing gear out

Plenty folk bang on abou 170 on the clock in their cossie when limiter in 5th is about 157 genuine.
A 400 hp cossie at 7k in 5th on 17 inch rims and 215.40 tyres is a geniune 171 mph...


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Originally Posted by pani_k
Do any of the maps have the ability to override the torque limiter in 1st and 2nd? Does it still manage to spin up quite a bit in the first two gears then? Could you use a standalone boost controller for the boost? Just wondering...
Im certain this one does and thought the bluefin did too.

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Chop, lag is not bad, being a doubting Thomas i wasn't sure, i knew it wouldn't be as bad as a cossie as it has a bigger engine, but i wasn't sure if it would be ok, we got the big turbo on before last Christmas, first drive & i was impressed, tiny bit more lag but pulls hard to the limiter.
is your mate 'Scottish Greg' on the forums? theres another Greg with a green one (Maxwell on the forums) i was told him & Simon @ Sitech were having a good hack at Knockhill

Ah never thought of the bigger capacity helping. As it is it pulls hard to limiter so more must be insane!

"Scottish Greg" is my pal. He has black wheels with a green strip round inside of rim and its lowered. STUNNING.
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Originally Posted by rsmat
mine was awesome to drive and loved every minute of it.

dan do you still have the vid of me coming past your house in the wet.?
the one on the private road ye

http://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m...afilter=videos
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Originally Posted by Danny @ Enhanced Performance
A 400 hp cossie at 7k in 5th on 17 inch rims and 215.40 tyres is a geniune 171 mph...


cheers danny

Yeah thats all very well but not everyone has 7k revs to play with. I cant actually remember the standard limiter...6.5 or 6.7k?

I remember this from brunters when cars were hitting 157.
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as people seem to say, you cant get it all down in first and second which is a shame. Guess that IS the limit of FWD in such a heavy car. Would piss me off not being able to achieve its full potential in 1st/2nd without it wheelspinning, but then i prefer fast accelerating to 60 nimble cars. Im sure with decent tyres on a track it would be fine though.
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on the crail website the quickest focus rs i can see was 13.015 at 116mph
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as people seem to say, you cant get it all down in first and second which is a shame. Guess that IS the limit of FWD in such a heavy car. Would piss me off not being able to achieve its full potential in 1st/2nd without it wheelspinning, but then i prefer fast accelerating to 60 nimble cars. Im sure with decent tyres on a track it would be fine though.

Greg took me out first and i asked him to gun in 2nd and you could see the traction light come on. When i drove it i gave it maybe 3/4 throttle to 4k and floored it there and had NO spin or traction light or even torque steer. I didnt waste my time trying anythign in someone else's car in 1st.

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on the crail website the quickest focus rs i can see was 13.015 at 116mph
Yeah thats about right 1444 kg iirc so pretty heavy and front wheel drive so from a standing start pretty shit but once they get moving they handle very well and the chassis feels like it could handle 500 hp!!!on the move that is...

Other than being a nice looking every day car i still find them boring and well under powered in std trim...

Once someone devolopes a geniune solid 500 hp one then i might be interested because imo thats how much power it needs to be exciting..


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imo thats how much power it needs to be exciting..

I think thats a little unfair. At 500 bhp it would be blisteringly quick in a straight line and punch well above its weight.

As standard i agree they are slowish. My stg1 dreamscienced mk1 focus would beat one easy. The bluefin stg2 was much betetr and felt quick.

This 400 spec is more than quick enough for most people.

It's easy to be spoiled into thinking cars need to be quicker due to what you're used to.

I try to step back from that. I really feared for the life of my evo while in it
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Originally Posted by Lambchop
I think thats a little unfair. At 500 bhp it would be blisteringly quick in a straight line and punch well above its weight.

As standard i agree they are slowish. My stg1 dreamscienced mk1 focus would beat one easy. The bluefin stg2 was much betetr and felt quick.

This 400 spec is more than quick enough for most people.

It's easy to be spoiled into thinking cars need to be quicker due to what you're used to.

I try to step back from that. I really feared for the life of my evo while in it
Ok fair does your right a geniune usable 400 hp for a nice quick road car but i know id still want 500 hp!!!lol


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Originally Posted by Lambchop
I think thats a little unfair. At 500 bhp it would be blisteringly quick in a straight line and punch well above its weight.

As standard i agree they are slowish. My stg1 dreamscienced mk1 focus would beat one easy. The bluefin stg2 was much betetr and felt quick.

This 400 spec is more than quick enough for most people.

It's easy to be spoiled into thinking cars need to be quicker due to what you're used to.

I try to step back from that. I really feared for the life of my evo while in it
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what power spec was your evo???
Iv driven a 580 hp one we did a while back 2.3 stroker and that car was mental on the road!!!
On the road i really couldnt see anything beat it!!!!still didnt like it though and would never have one...felt like it was going to blow any minute..even worse than a yb..lol


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Originally Posted by Danny @ Enhanced Performance
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what power spec was your evo???
Iv driven a 580 hp one we did a while back 2.3 stroker and that car was mental on the road!!!
On the road i really couldnt see anything beat it!!!!still didnt like it though and would never have one...felt like it was going to blow any minute..even worse than a yb..lol


cheers danny

My evo is a "380" spec. Standard issue bigger fuel pump and a decent map with a proper exhaust and decat. It's very fast and very capable. Could make betetr cars look very silly with it's traction from low down. Even when damp. You can accelerate and not have to hang on for dear life. In my 400 bhp cossie im always shitting it. Tbh im not sure i'll ever need my 3dr again and thats sad

I'd absolutely love a shot of a big spec evo just to see how mental it is.
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i went out in simon from sitech mk2 frs with the js450 conversion on it and he got nos on his as well and it was amazing how well it puts the power down, never been in a fwd car that pulls the way it does awesome cars.
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