Best road Legal tyres for road and track days 888s?
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Best road Legal tyres for road and track days 888s?
What's the best rubber for an R34 skyline GTt full road car about 350 bhp? Ive been looking at r888s but there must be better out there than them, they must be road legal and perform well on track too, which Avon or Dunlop Sp tyres have been used and recommended? Also for a similar power 2wd sapphire cossie, what have you used?
i dont see why people are still using 888s so much, yoko a048s last much better, and are similar price now, 888s used to be cheaper and were good value for money, not so much now.
never tried the dunlops.
arent kuhmo now doing a similar tyre?
never tried the dunlops.
arent kuhmo now doing a similar tyre?
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I actually thought it was you who had said the car ate through them.As pointed out though 888's are SO bloody expensive now there are better options out there and from what I am told the A048 for example will outlast a 888 on any car, I'd of thought the options of better compounds would have somethign to do with that though.
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The Federal 595 RSR Tyre is the tyre of choice for serious track work or a road and track car.
We have been using the RSR for four years now. Our many wins in competition had a big part to play in bringing the RSR to Europe.
We use the RSR on our track cars, our drift cars, and our road cars.
For those of you that don't know the RSR, it's probably best if we compare it to the R888.
In terms of outright grip, it offers 95% of the R888's dry performance. But where the RSR really comes into it's own is as an all rounder. It has much more tread, and the V Pattern clears water extremely well. It's also a relatively quiet and comfortable tyre for road use. It heat cycles well, and I have had 11k miles on a set on my M3 including two trips to the Nurburgring, and two track days where I was pushing extremely hard.
Perhaps the thing we best love about the RSR when comparing to the R888, is that it has so much more feel on the edge of traction, allowing you to really find your limits and get the most out of your suspension setup.
Simply put. There is no better value for money for the performance. We're already seeing that it is fast becoming the tyre of choice for the Nurburgring as the surfaces ever changing conditions there really suit the Federal 595RSR's diverse handling characteristics.
We have been using the RSR for four years now. Our many wins in competition had a big part to play in bringing the RSR to Europe.
We use the RSR on our track cars, our drift cars, and our road cars.
For those of you that don't know the RSR, it's probably best if we compare it to the R888.
In terms of outright grip, it offers 95% of the R888's dry performance. But where the RSR really comes into it's own is as an all rounder. It has much more tread, and the V Pattern clears water extremely well. It's also a relatively quiet and comfortable tyre for road use. It heat cycles well, and I have had 11k miles on a set on my M3 including two trips to the Nurburgring, and two track days where I was pushing extremely hard.
Perhaps the thing we best love about the RSR when comparing to the R888, is that it has so much more feel on the edge of traction, allowing you to really find your limits and get the most out of your suspension setup.
Simply put. There is no better value for money for the performance. We're already seeing that it is fast becoming the tyre of choice for the Nurburgring as the surfaces ever changing conditions there really suit the Federal 595RSR's diverse handling characteristics.
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Yes I have. Leagues ahead as in they actually do something when it's more than damp.
Yes I have. Leagues ahead as in they actually do something when it's more than damp.
Sorry... how can it be leagues ahead!
when even the people bigging them up say they only offer 95% of the grip of an R888!!!!
I have a feeling that the people writing that also might be slightly 'in' with federal
They do sound good though. Will do some more research. Sounds like could be good road tyre for M3.
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I am suprised about that ! my mistake then I actually thought it was you who had said the car ate through them.
As pointed out though 888's are SO bloody expensive now there are better options out there and from what I am told the A048 for example will outlast a 888 on any car, I'd of thought the options of better compounds would have somethign to do with that though.
I actually thought it was you who had said the car ate through them.As pointed out though 888's are SO bloody expensive now there are better options out there and from what I am told the A048 for example will outlast a 888 on any car, I'd of thought the options of better compounds would have somethign to do with that though.
Nah man... I had the same set of rears on my R34, did at least 4 trackdays... then did 2 with same tyres on 911... countless road miles on both cars.
then gave em to a mate who did 3 trackdays and 3 Ring trips with them on the back of a 928
God know what happened to make em last that long!
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Nah man... I had the same set of rears on my R34, did at least 4 trackdays... then did 2 with same tyres on 911... countless road miles on both cars.
then gave em to a mate who did 3 trackdays and 3 Ring trips with them on the back of a 928
God know what happened to make em last that long!
They were Holy!
then gave em to a mate who did 3 trackdays and 3 Ring trips with them on the back of a 928
God know what happened to make em last that long!
They were Holy!
I do know if anyone was likely to kill a set of tyres it would be you though so they are obviously not that bad !
Kumho is another option, and Hankook, people at the ring were raving about the Kumho semi slick a few years back.
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Sorry... how can it be leagues ahead!
when even the people bigging them up say they only offer 95% of the grip of an R888!!!!
I have a feeling that the people writing that also might be slightly 'in' with federal
They do sound good though. Will do some more research. Sounds like could be good road tyre for M3.
when even the people bigging them up say they only offer 95% of the grip of an R888!!!!
I have a feeling that the people writing that also might be slightly 'in' with federal
They do sound good though. Will do some more research. Sounds like could be good road tyre for M3.
So what, driftworks have a sponsorship deal with them, they wouldn't use them if they were shit would they.
Price wise, and that's if you can find somewhere stocking 888's.
225/45/17 Ł111 vs Ł158
255/40/17 Ł135 vs Ł170
215/45/17 Ł105 vs Ł135
So thats almost the same dry performance, they last longer, work in the wet, and are quite a bit cheaper. Good enough for me to call it leagues ahead.
Being serious though, try them, you might be suprised.
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Originally Posted by trackracer
888s gg (medium compound)all the time, excellent in all conditions (bar standing water) wet dry hot cold awesome all round tyre!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tried federal rsrs as being touted as a track day tyre ? biggest disapointment ever utter s*^t% , dont come on at all just rip thereselves to pieces chunks out etc although have to say they may suit some as not all peoples expectations and driving ability,demands on components are the same .
Leagues ahead? I think not.
Seem like a different kind of tyre to me. More fast road than trackday...
so not fair to compare.
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an independant review on the federals from someone who is not sponsered by them!
from pistonheads...
I know thats just one person.... but I trust that review over someone who gets them for free and is sponsered by them.
Leagues ahead? I think not.
Seem like a different kind of tyre to me. More fast road than trackday...
so not fair to compare.
from pistonheads...
I know thats just one person.... but I trust that review over someone who gets them for free and is sponsered by them.
Leagues ahead? I think not.
Seem like a different kind of tyre to me. More fast road than trackday...
so not fair to compare.
How does it seem a different king of tyre? The op wanted a tyre for road and track days.
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different type of tyre to an R888 I meant clearly.
I'd like to try them as well, but I would always take an independant persons view over someone paid to use them
I'd like to try them as well, but I would always take an independant persons view over someone paid to use them
The dunlop so2s i used to have were awesome,the first few laps on the 888s were better then after that utter shit!!where as the s02s were better after that first few laps..
Also all the 888s iv bought have lasted no time at all,the last ones only two trackdays and they were shit too,3 good laps then all over the show!!!
Funny though the set i bought a few years ago lasted maybe 3-4 track days...
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Also all the 888s iv bought have lasted no time at all,the last ones only two trackdays and they were shit too,3 good laps then all over the show!!!
Funny though the set i bought a few years ago lasted maybe 3-4 track days...
cheers danny
i have some track/road tyres forsale, open to an offer
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r888's were the obvious choice as they were quite a bit cheaper than a048's
now they are roughly the same price a048's look more appealing
though these kuhmo v70a's seems good and have good reviews, i might try them next
never heard of the federal one's
i need a full set so will shop around, unlike 6mth+ ago i would have just got r888's
now they are roughly the same price a048's look more appealing
though these kuhmo v70a's seems good and have good reviews, i might try them next
never heard of the federal one's
i need a full set so will shop around, unlike 6mth+ ago i would have just got r888's
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The Hankook test of the Ventus Evo V12 K110 conducted at Sepang makes a good read, within a second of the dedicated wets and drys lap after lap, and outlasted both wets and drys, and were still legal to use for loads of miles afterwards.
Tests conducted with a sti scoob over a full day, I'll see if I can find a link.
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Tests conducted with a sti scoob over a full day, I'll see if I can find a link.
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r888's have to different compounds theres a medium and soft ive got the medium and that have lasted a long time 4 track days 8 r.w.y.b days and driving hard
the toyo's are a track tyre that can be used on the road wheres the fed's are a road tyre that might hold up to track abuse coz slicks are not leagle on road the toyo's are the close'est to slicks and get better when worn as the tread has gone as it is then like a slick
just a shame the price of r888's have gone up
the toyo's are a track tyre that can be used on the road wheres the fed's are a road tyre that might hold up to track abuse coz slicks are not leagle on road the toyo's are the close'est to slicks and get better when worn as the tread has gone as it is then like a slick
just a shame the price of r888's have gone up
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anyone had any experience of the Bridgestone road legal 'slick' tyres??
happened to notice a set on an imprezza the other day, didnt realise bridgestone did them,
happened to notice a set on an imprezza the other day, didnt realise bridgestone did them,
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so a048s for the safe option and Federals may well be a bargain for the price, maybe worth a try. That and the Kumhos but definately not r888s for the price of them. Thankyou, something to work on
Less flex on the blocks of treads is an advantage, but heat cylced rubber is a disadvantage.
If you really want the best from a set of 888's or similar, then buy them and have them shaved down to 2mm of tread, then use them.
TOTALLY different to them being worn out heat damaged rubber at the same depth though.
If you really want the best from a set of 888's or similar, then buy them and have them shaved down to 2mm of tread, then use them.
TOTALLY different to them being worn out heat damaged rubber at the same depth though.
I have been using Michelin Pilot Sport Cups lately after the recomendation of Mike Rainbird to try them and Ive been very impressed, they dont seem to overheat as easily as 888 mediums do, and yet they seem to grip just as well.
They are standard fitment on CSL and GT2's for a reason I guess!
They are standard fitment on CSL and GT2's for a reason I guess!