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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 04:25 PM
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my m8 selling has S1 (which has a Quaife straght cut gearbox)
I was thinkin of putting it in my S2!!

I was going to do a deal with my box and some £££ will my S2 box fit in his S1, and will the quaife box fit in my S2?

does any1 have a S/C box in there S2 and what sort of price should I
be paying for 1?

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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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S1 will fit your S2 but not the other way around mate.
No idea on price.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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hi mate, mine cost me about £2400 new that's with diff and rebuild

thanks
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 08:51 PM
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Thanx for getting back to me!! hes after £1000 off me so sounds like a bargain shame I carnt swap my gearbox would be even cheeper for me
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 09:14 PM
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sounds like a bargain pal, get it snapped up.

before i find out were he is LOL
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 09:44 PM
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are these boxs strong? seams a good price
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 10:16 PM
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Year they are really strong im no mechanic just quoting what ive been told
theres an article in aug PERFORMANCE FORD MAG bout clutches and gearboxes worth a readit explains the diffence between the gear sets!
they are noisier which you either love or hate!
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 04:15 PM
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I thought QUAIFE only done 1 kit for the BC box and it is £1300 and only for upto 175 BHP?

http://www.quaife.co.uk/catalogue/products/qke16z-1
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 04:28 PM
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is that fully built up tho?? as i got a 2k+ quote

also quaife always underestimate there power out puts etc.... so if you run over that and it breaks the cover is void

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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 01:34 PM
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I thought the hole point of a straight cut box is so u can put shit loads of power though them without them going bang on u (and they sound good 2)

Im sure he said that the box has a Quaife diff aswell, im just waiting for him to let me take out his S1 for a play before I commit to buy! is there anything I should be looking out for? as I dont wanna spend 1,000 £'s & end up with a headache
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How much power your car running?
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 04:25 PM
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Hi Matt,
I havent had my S2 long so not to sure, its chipped & I was told 180BHP but Im not 100% Its 1/4 mile is 15sec .

eventually will run fairly big power (time /money) Im just strating to change bits now, once I get it how I want ill get set up properly!!

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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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i've not had any problems with mine, had it for over 2 years the only thing is motorways 70mph is over 3000rpm and top speed isn't much
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Originally Posted by wing
i've not had any problems with mine, had it for over 2 years the only thing is motorways 70mph is over 3000rpm and top speed isn't much
what power, torque are you running, top speeds not great as they were for circuit racing in mind
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I have no idea when I bought it was told 180bhp, I have a few things I wana change so havent had it power tested yet! @ the mo the cars more of a show car, Im not planing on stripping it out and use asa out an out track car just wana beef it up, Im gonna keep the car for a long time so got plenty of time to get it right

I wasn't planning on changing the box yet but this quaife straght cut box has come up & seems like ill b kicking my self lata if i dont have it, plus my m8s sorting me out, getting a really good deal spose I should get it on the rolling road before I change 2 much other wise I won't how much ive improved the power once its finished
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 12:28 AM
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if you not racing it etc....i doubt you would like the whining of a straight cut box every day, especially on the motorway run, would get on your nerves
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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I only use it for playtime so should be quite novel but totally get what your say'n for a everyday car!!

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Originally Posted by jonny s2
what power, torque are you running, top speeds not great as they were for circuit racing in mind
i'm only running 249hp not sure about torque, use mine as daily driver and love it
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Originally Posted by wing
i'm only running 249hp not sure about torque, use mine as daily driver and love it
so it does take more power than claimed,

wing: your hard core fella LOL quaife straight cut daily
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jonny s2
so it does take more power than claimed,

wing: your hard core fella LOL quaife straight cut daily
when i bought mine quaife said customers have had them running up to 400hp, it's not that noisy or i've got used to it
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by wing
when i bought mine quaife said customers have had them running up to 400hp, it's not that noisy or i've got used to it
thats quite interesting, but top speeds no good what are they like on accelleration?? do you wear ear plugs
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 09:48 PM
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no ear plugs mate, top speed 134 but gets there quick, on private road of course
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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I think im gonna go for it my m8 loved it in his S1 & said the same as wing!! @ least I wont break it if thay can run 400BHP Now that would b scary a 400BHP RST !!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Cobs1808
I think im gonna go for it my m8 loved it in his S1 & said the same as wing!! @ least I wont break it if thay can run 400BHP Now that would b scary a 400BHP RST !!!!!!!!
the 400hp is bull shit lol they are talking about sunnys old green fiesta and he broke it more than a few time from what im told.

the main problem with the ib5/bc aint the gears its the main shaft.

for your £k you could do a focus rs conversion.
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by crazycage
the 400hp is bull shit lol they are talking about sunnys old green fiesta and he broke it more than a few time from what im told.

the main problem with the ib5/bc aint the gears its the main shaft.

for your £k you could do a focus rs conversion.

Sunny's wasn't straight cut though was it, Gary? Thought his was a CTS Stage 2+? And yes, I think he break that a few times, as did Paul Jonhson.

I've heard of the BC straight cut boxes running 300BHP and Torque without any problems. The problem with the BC is the design of the gearbox casing itself, being inherently weak and twisting, destroying the bearings.
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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yep, bc's ib5 dont have the webbing like the mtx
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the problem with bc gearbox is the helicol gearset push their self apart and fook the bearings then the case, straight cut don't
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Originally Posted by muz
Sunny's wasn't straight cut though was it, Gary? Thought his was a CTS Stage 2+? And yes, I think he break that a few times, as did Paul Jonhson.

I've heard of the BC straight cut boxes running 300BHP and Torque without any problems. The problem with the BC is the design of the gearbox casing itself, being inherently weak and twisting, destroying the bearings.
im told he tryed the straight cut gears and broke them .

loads of pepole run that kind of power through bc/ib5's its all down to how you use it! what you use it for! and how manny miles you do.
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TBH The Quaife SCCR boxes usually aren't all that on turbo motors, strength wise for one and the other being the ratios ( unless someone chose some good ones ) are unlikely to to suit your engines powerband.

Just my thoughts on it, I'd be using a FRS box over a Quaife unit if their as strong as people say.
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
TBH The Quaife SCCR boxes usually aren't all that on turbo motors, strength wise for one and the other being the ratios ( unless someone chose some good ones ) are unlikely to to suit your engines powerband.

Just my thoughts on it, I'd be using a FRS box over a Quaife unit if their as strong as people say.
they are proper strong mate.
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