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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 06:57 PM
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hi there ive jus recently bought an escort van fully resprayed in imperial blue and im just on with lowering the back end but obviously i need 2 do sumet with the arches so what can i do 2 em that will have the same effect as rolling them but without damaging the paint work?
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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Grind the lip off and touch up the resulting bare metal.
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 07:00 PM
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would grinding it not heat the paint up and make it peel though?
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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would grinding it not heat the paint up and make it peel though?

Not if your carefull, i have never had a problem with paint when grinding arches i did however have a few cracks apear when arch enemy rolled my arches on my VR6. It wasnt there fault they do a great job its just one of those things.

I have also found you get abit more clearance grinding rather than rolling.
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 07:09 PM
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great thanks 4 your help
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 07:24 PM
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Get an arch roller job done
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 07:40 PM
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dont they normally warm the paint then use the roller or is that an urban myth?
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 07:42 PM
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vans usualy rub on inner arch what size you fitting i could only get 195 55 on mine rear is a twat on these
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 07:48 PM
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Myth!!warming the paint would give you more chance of damage,grinder would certainly stop the paint cracking as long as you keep it moving but remember that any metal without protection will rust almost literally overnight.good idea to mask off with a loadof masking tape ,lots of layers just incase the grinder slips as it would defeat the object otherwise!!
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Warming the paint with a hot air gun softens it,does help prevent paint from cracking

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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 09:10 PM
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hmmm thanks ill have a think i just dont wanna fuk the paint cos it is literally show condition and the wheels that are going on it are 18inch focus rs wheels 215/35 tyres they look the tits next 2 it.
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Warming the paint with a hot air gun softens it,does help prevent paint from cracking

cheeRS stu

You'd have to be mega careful though,I've got my own bodyshop and you'd be surprised how easily you can bubble up the laquer,especially if it's only recently been sprayed.
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hmmm thanks ill have a think i just dont wanna fuk the paint cos it is literally show condition and the wheels that are going on it are 18inch focus rs wheels 215/35 tyres they look the tits next 2 it.

Hi mate,you'd certainly need to be careful but it wouldn't be beyond any ok bodyshop to put things right if it went wrong.paint does crack easily if it's deformed out of shape but using a grinder carefully won't harm,you'll only see the ground metal if you take the wheel off,you can brush paint inside the arch as it'll never be seen.
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Is this the van from opposite where ATS used to be mate? Just noticed your from goole
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heat gun and nylon hammer for me.
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 10:28 AM
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Is this the van from opposite where ATS used to be mate? Just noticed your from goole
yes m8 it is from there are you from goole? if so what are you running?
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Yeah i am mate. Normally running an MG ZT, but i've got a silver saph too
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ooooh do you live down near woodlands pub i think ive seen your saph. wats it runnin at?
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Yeah i do. No idea what it's running mate, it's got no turbo on as i'm changing the spec.
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And it's actuator is sat in my garage for some reason
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by lozi
Grind the lip off and touch up the resulting bare metal.
U are kidding right lol or are u a butcher by trade!. I had mine done at x sport in basingstoke and he warmed the paint so it would be more flexable and not crack he used a proper arch rolling tool
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Originally Posted by Graceland
And it's actuator is sat in my garage for some reason
Yeah thats another issue

As for warming the paint up, it should work, just be very very careful as if you get it too warm you will mark the paint. It's probably worth putting some masking tape around the lip first.
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by huautos
vans usualy rub on inner arch what size you fitting i could only get 195 55 on mine rear is a twat on these

am sure i had 225/50/15s on the back of mine in the earlys 90s

was a long time ago
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
U are kidding right lol or are u a butcher by trade!. I had mine done at x sport in basingstoke and he warmed the paint so it would be more flexable and not crack he used a proper arch rolling tool
Think he was only suggesting it as the lad didn't want the paint to crack.if you've never done it before a grinder is a pretty safe option.I rolled them on my s1 before and never heated the paint and they worked fine,I made a load of cuts with a hacksaw first so as not to be bending one long length and it worked great.
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
U are kidding right lol or are u a butcher by trade!. I had mine done at x sport in basingstoke and he warmed the paint so it would be more flexable and not crack he used a proper arch rolling tool

Having done both numerous times no im not kidding he wanted to know a way of doing it without cracking the paint i gave him one. Ive had arches rolled by proffesional companys and tbh i have had better results getting the grinder out!
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Originally Posted by lozi
Having done both numerous times no im not kidding he wanted to know a way of doing it without cracking the paint i gave him one. Ive had arches rolled by proffesional companys and tbh i have had better results getting the grinder out!
I wouldent let anyone near my nice painted arches with a grinder!
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you will only roll it sofar then the paint will crack even if you warm it up
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Originally Posted by graham c
you will only roll it sofar then the paint will crack even if you warm it up
Come see my fronts then! there rolled as far as they can go no paint cracking

Last edited by ajamesc; Jun 27, 2010 at 09:26 PM.
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by xr_craig
Yeah thats another issue

As for warming the paint up, it should work, just be very very careful as if you get it too warm you will mark the paint. It's probably worth putting some masking tape around the lip first.
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