I really never thought I'd type that line but let me explain...

My neighbours are a nice enough family, but are the classic benefit scroungers. The Mum doesn't work (or did, but managed to get deliberately sacked so she could take them to a tribunal) Dad works three days a week in a low paid job, (he knows if he works more they get less benefits). Three kids, all with supposed 'special needs' so they get grants etc. There are countless tales of their epic scrounging including having a complete loft conversion carried out FOC, and they never seem to be short of a money - big LCD TV, plenty of home delivery vans at the house, etc.

Today my wife went round there and the Mum told her that she would now have to get a job because of the change in benefits!!! Result - That's EXACTLY what the benefit system changes are designed to do and there are going be a LOT more like her around the country.

Labour's benefit system effectively paid people to stay at home! Not any more!!!

GET A FUCKING JOB! HA!

 

About time these people joined the real world

 

about fooking time mate....result.

 

I was on about the same thing today. Really pisses me off that i do fulltime and more and still cant afford a cossie lol

 

Good news but I fear tis a drop in the ocean

Hope I am wrong tho....scrounging tw@s

 

i hate lazy people and its about time something was done about the scroungers and work shy wankers

 

I'd say they're quite typical of many many people in the country - People who have realised that the system supported them sufficiently well for work to no longer be a requirement.

Our office is right next to the Job Centre, and you see the same faces there week in, week out - yet when you look through the window there are rows upon rows of jobs! There are lots of jobs out there, and now a lot more people are going to have to apply for them.

 

While it might be a positive for some people its not for others so nothing really to cheer about...

 

Definitley a good move far to many scroungers,i hope they sort the people who claim disabilty aswell theres loads milking that system aswell

 

What's not to cheer about? Benefit cheats being forced back into work is ALWAYS worth celebrating.

 

For me my mum been even worse off then she already is, having to look after her disabled son 24/7 doesn't count for much with the goverment

but yes im all for the proper cheats having to work or getting nothing

 

Not good, must be v.hard on her... It's a separate issue, to the benefit scroungers though.

 

Why if you are genuinely in a position where you can prove you cannot work for whatever reason they should have no worries

Less scroungers should mean less red tape and better help for those that truly deserve assistance

My cousin earlier this year had an accident and is practically quadraplegic has to wait at least 2 years for a suitable home and we are to be honest in quite an affluent area

In the meantime he has to stay on a special unit at christ knows how much more cost than if he had a suitable home

Oh and he worked all his life,part time from 14 then all the hours god sent from 16

 

I have no problem with genuine people claiming but there are a lot of people who milk the system,I have to be tested by a doc every year to get my incapity benefit and would have no problem being tested again.

But what did my blood boil once was a neaighbour was signed off sick as he had skin problems with his hands,well chapped skin

 

My other half's brother dont work, his girlfriend has a part time job and he has a couple of kids, he gets so much more in benefits than he would if he went to work its unreal, although he is family i would really like to see the government put a stop to it, it isnt any good for a young man with a family to be like he is.

Steve

 

With the greastest respect i dont think you know what your on about with this specific case so to say if you can prove it then you wont have any worries sounds quite a stupid statement to me

But lets hope it gets the lowlifes off to work

 

its exactly why i voted tory

Bang ON!

 

Excuse me but what the hell are you on about

You simply made some statement,my input was about a very real situation that has torned his kids and his mums world apart

I simply stated if you are truly deserving of benefits then you totally deserve it

Maybe I chose the wrong words but you know what I meant

 

Well done tory's.

 

Wonderful news this.say what you want about conservatives but they rarely renage on a promise.my missus ex best mate went for years being unable to afford a car then all of a sudden her dad has angina and she's driving a brand new car,trying to rub our noses in it!!her old mans NEVER been in the car,she changed it for a new golf two years ago,dirty Ginger slag!!.the benifts for people under labour were ridiculous really,I mean they gave alkies an extra £10 a day to buy drink,girls getting tit jobs cos they feel depressed!!!someone has to pay and with labour that was anyone who had a job.
If you genuinely need help,then I doubt much will change but as said in previous posts they made it hard for you to goto work as it simply wasn't worth it,Tories want to stop that and I for one am glad their starting to do it!!

 

Best budget in a long time. I didnt think they could stand by their word but they seem to be.

Im right behind them.

 

sorry i didn't know what you meant as on the end you said

"Why if you are genuinely in a position where you can prove you cannot work for whatever reason they should have no worries"

the no worries bit got me? as my mum can prove that she cant work and what LITTLE money she does get they have put VAT up and cutting her benefits to, so she does have to worry alot

hope you see what i mean and the way it read

 

oops sorry fella didnt see this post ,i totaly agree she should have more assistance system has got this current situation completely wrong

 

think my post above should clear it all up (i orriginally was looking on my blackberry)

quite obviousley she cannot work as she has to provide 24hr care,i hope the changes in the system will help her and the genuine cases/situations

 

All doom and gloom aint it fella, perharps you should throw some cash in to the pot instead of watching your old gal struggle.

 

bit harsh aint it.

 

about time.now get the immigrants to fuck.

 

quicker the better!

 

Tories ain't taking shit from no one. I wish i could see a benefit claimers face when he/she gets told 'NO MORE' go find a job you lazy fooker!!!

 

Perhaps you should keep your awful comments to yourself until you actually know me, i wouldn't watch any of the people around me be it family or friends struggle so lets not drift off topic

 

If all those who can work but don't, have to find a job, there will be no jobs left for migrant workers to come over for.

 

Yeah it is, but too many people in this country moan thats life is too hard and don't wanna do anything about it. I'm sure life is shit for his mum but help is out there, you may just have to fight to get it. Its been far to easy under labour!

 

I'm sure your mum is more than greatful for your help.

 

Someone caring for a disabled relative 24/7 shouldn't have to fight for help. They should be the ones receiving the support, not the benefit dossers.

So aren't there ANY jobs you can do?

 

spot on

i have no issues with people claiming if they GENUINELY cannot work

 

similar issue to us to be honest dan. We bought a brand new Barratts house 2 years ago for £158450..............4 months down the line we have the "dingles" move in next door but one-why? Because Barrats allocated some houses to social housing associations She must be aged about 30 with 5 kids all under the age of 7

Bout time it stopped.

 

DAN@FASTFORD
Someone caring for a disabled relative 24/7 shouldn't have to fight for help. They should be the ones receiving the support, not the benefit dossers.

Yeah i agree and hopefully the tories sort it out! They need to fuck off the pikey scum and help out the decent people of this country

 

there is a job out there for everyone.the guy at my work lost his leg and has other things wrong with him.fair do's hes just sat in an office but atleast he is working than sat in his house claiming which by all rights he could.lucky i aint prime minister.if you can walk then you would be working.

 

WHY, the answer is simple, the BAMS, benefits agency medical service(dr's) get paid as a result of how may are denied benefit, ie found fit for work, they are as have been proven to many courts satisfaction the most incompetent bent doctors ever.
A few cases, the richardson case from great yarmouth, cost YOU the taxpayer over £400,000, over 3 years as the BAMS doctor found he had NO disability, he is quadraplegic, since birth, even then when he got judgement DWP(benfits agency) say they don't pay more than 3 months back pay, he'd had nothing for 3 years, so more of your tax money later via legal aid he sued the DWP, won then had to take enforcement action.
BAMS doctors found me gf totally deaf in one ear, and able to open her medicine bottles easily, odd when she forgot her handbag and didn't have them, she's also got PERFECT hearing, but does have partial parralysis following a stroke at age 3-4 all down her left side.
My doctor won't sign me fit for work, as have vasa vagels, and mental disorder plus other
things, I'm not even allowed to work voluntary, but can work 16 hours withiout it affecting my benefit, just recently had a pay rise, 43 pence a week, which put me 1 pence over a limit for something else, so lost £17.32 as a result of that rise, 3rd time that's happened.
I am all for those able to work doings so, but not at piss take wages, a lot in the rural areas are below national minimum, as there are more imigrants to fill those that leave.
I have reported many many peeps for working, some full time whilst claiming, you can lose your benefit for cutting the neighbours grass, EVEN IF YOU DON'T CHARGE a penny.
The stigma any long term disabled/sick get is untrue, as dan proves spending his life worrying about other people.
The new rules need to be sorted out properly as no doubt as with all other rule son this subject the only ones suffering are the only ones who shouldn't need to worry.
Take a minute to think what happens if you genuinely can't work, but constantly have to prove it, and worry if you are ill enough under the latest set of new rules.
Looking at sick rates in the government, esp police.
Too many genuine ones put off by all the hoops, as wella s too many who know the system.
BTW, certain skin conditions are exempt from working, it must be distressing if you looked like elephant man.
Don't judge a person until you have walked in his shoes, cos most know jack shit about how ill a person really is just by looking.
I take MORPHINE 4 times a day, this alone prevents me from working, but is also a condition of my license that I cannot drive unless I have taken my medication.
tabetha

 

We get people applying for jobs who only appy to get their giro. Another friend of mine has this same problem. So even if you take them on they just wont do the job properly.