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Old May 30, 2010 | 06:16 PM
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Default 306 gti6 or clio 172 for a track car??

as above please and opinions on both cars please
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Old May 30, 2010 | 06:23 PM
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Clio I had a gti6 for a bit and IMO it was shit
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Old May 30, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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clio - everyones got one on here LOL
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Old May 30, 2010 | 06:29 PM
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Clio.

GTi6 is without doubt the worst car I've ever driven. And I've driven some shitters in my time!
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Old May 30, 2010 | 07:39 PM
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Clio all day - I've had 3

GTI6 requires work to the sump to stop it running out of oil on hard cornering ( I believe )

Also for the money you will get a newer and lesser mileage car than if you got a GTi6.

And they dont turn one way properly due to the 6 speed box... lol
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Old May 30, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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clio 172
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Old May 30, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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I loved my 306gti and would no way say it was shit! Maybe lot of you had shitters?

Great car for the money, and imo much better car than the 172. Ask Spiky hes had both.
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See i loved my old gti6 but not sure if the clio would be better but i now what im getting with a 306
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Old May 30, 2010 | 07:56 PM
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Gti-6 defo!! They are awsome track cars, I had a v plate 20k minter
Clio 172 are a waste of time ,yes they go ok but.. Everything else about them is shit
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Old May 30, 2010 | 08:04 PM
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What's the big fuss with these french shitters?surely there must be better cars out there for the money,although I am biased cos I hate clios as their made of paper and break a coilpack weekly.and y don't they start in the cold weather??what about a nice mk2 golf gti?I'll be honest and say I know fuck all about trackdays so please correct me if I'm talking arse!!!!
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What's the big fuss with these french shitters?surely there must be better cars out there for the money,although I am biased cos I hate clios as their made of paper and break a coilpack weekly.and y don't they start in the cold weather??what about a nice mk2 golf gti?I'll be honest and say I know fuck all about trackdays so please correct me if I'm talking arse!!!!


Never done a coil pack or had any problems in the cold.....
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as this is a ford forum... fiesta? lol
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Originally Posted by 5charlie46
as this is a ford forum... fiesta? lol
They dont make a fast enough, reliable enough one, that doesn't rust and handles well.

Unft the French have cornered this market.
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Originally Posted by Shings
They dont make a fast enough, reliable enough one, that doesn't rust and handles well.

Unft the French have cornered this market.
well seeing as its a track car, its going to be stripped out and ther is loads of engine transplant and tuning possibilties for something like a zetec s could get a frp lump or cams and tbs for the 1.6?? just a food for thought...
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I've often thought a stripped out 1.7 Puma might make a decent/budget track car actually... 120-odd bhp, light, handle well, bits/upgrade cheap and dont cost much to run either.


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Originally Posted by Shings
Never done a coil pack or had any problems in the cold.....
Hope I haven't jinxed you then!!we seem to have them in all the time with probs,admittedly they don't rust and are fun too drive so I suppose in a track environment they'd b ok.what about an rs2k?pretty bombproof motor and I'm sure the handling could match the froggies with some fettling?I really hate French cars!!!
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Originally Posted by 5charlie46
well seeing as its a track car, its going to be stripped out and ther is loads of engine transplant and tuning possibilties for something like a zetec s could get a frp lump or cams and tbs for the 1.6?? just a food for thought...

Buy a clio 172 and it will destroy any Fiesta or Escort out of the box thats the point.

Who said it has to be stripped out?? I never stripped mine out....
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Old May 30, 2010 | 08:21 PM
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Id say 306 gti 6, but then i am biased.

Heres a vid of one on track, not massive spec, just cage, suspension, exhaust/de cat and filter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTMVSPUatC0

Not my gti, but the guy can peddle.
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Old May 30, 2010 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by vaughant
Hope I haven't jinxed you then!!we seem to have them in all the time with probs,admittedly they don't rust and are fun too drive so I suppose in a track environment they'd b ok.what about an rs2k?pretty bombproof motor and I'm sure the handling could match the froggies with some fettling?I really hate French cars!!!
Marco made his handle properly but then he's an expert with all things suspension.

He easily proves the point with track cars that you need a reilable car that stops well and goes round corners properly. Big power, cages and other gay and expensive add ons are not necessary.
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Old May 30, 2010 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RS Grant
I've often thought a stripped out 1.7 Puma might make a decent/budget track car actually... 120-odd bhp, light, handle well, bits/upgrade cheap and dont cost much to run either.


Cheers,
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They do, right on all counts. Mine had lots of weight i could have pulled out, but it was still a daily driver.

Fun little car. Not "fast" but a good laugh.
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Old May 30, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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Peugeot's seem to be the pricey for you get compared to other Frenchies and don't they only go upto 2000 plate? What about a Xsara VTS? Ok so its a coupe not a hatch but for about 800-1500 you get a newer car and its still the 2.0 167bhp lump. Handling probably isn't quite as good as the 306 though. Also think the 306 is 6 gears whereas VTS is 5.
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Old May 30, 2010 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Evans
Id say 306 gti 6, but then i am biased.

Heres a vid of one on track, not massive spec, just cage, suspension, exhaust/de cat and filter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTMVSPUatC0

Not my gti, but the guy can peddle.
thats an awesome vid shows how good the 306 gti can be.

hope ours is as good lol when its running
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Old May 30, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by skeg
Peugeot's seem to be the pricey for you get compared to other Frenchies and don't they only go upto 2000 plate? What about a Xsara VTS? Ok so its a coupe not a hatch but for about 800-1500 you get a newer car and its still the 2.0 167bhp lump. Handling probably isn't quite as good as the 306 though. Also think the 306 is 6 gears whereas VTS is 5.

Suprisingly you're wrong... the Zsara is the same car - just a coupe... same track and suspension etc.. handling is nigh on the same.

Its a good option
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Old May 30, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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would you not go for a rallye rather than a gti6?
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