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Old May 29, 2010 | 08:21 AM
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hi there can u tell me the difference in the above in bhp and what it takes 2 get up 2 the bhp ie bits u need and is it all the same 4 all cossie engines or not thanks
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Old May 29, 2010 | 09:44 AM
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Stage 1 is just a chip which could take them up to 270bhp

Stage 2 is a chip green injectors 3 bar map sensor and i think the turbo actuator has a longer rod on it to get mote boost. Induction kit stainless exhaust.This could take you to 305 bhp (like mine was)

Stage 3 is the same as above,but with a bigger intercooler.Or differnet injectors.

Please correct me if im wrong people.

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Old May 29, 2010 | 09:46 AM
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stage one can you get 290bhp
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Old May 29, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
Stage 1 is just a chip which could take them up to 270bhp

Stage 2 is a chip green injectors 3 bar map sensor and i think the turbo actuator has a longer rod on it to get mote boost. Induction kit stainless exhaust.This could take you to 305 bhp (like mine was)

Stage 3 is the same as above,but with a bigger intercooler.Or differnet injectors.

Please correct me if im wrong people.
stage 3 would probably come under bigger turbo and cooler
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Old May 29, 2010 | 09:49 AM
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Thats good i think i can remember someone who had a saff with a good bhp figure from a stage 1.
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Old May 29, 2010 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by stonehavencossie
stage 3 would probably come under bigger turbo and cooler
Cheers fella.Ive been in a 400bhp saff and i shat myself.Wish i could afford to get the bits to get mine to 400bhp.
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Stage 1 is as said a remapped chip to run a higher boost pressure along with reprogrammed timing curves, this will see power at around 270HP +

Stage 2 is standard turbo, with green injectors and 3 bar map sensor but running a higer boost pressure again hence the need for a uprated MAP sensor, this stage is usually skipped and people jump straight to stage 3 because of the minimal cost difference between the two, Power for this is 300HP +

Stage 3 is as stage 2 plus a bigger turbo, running again higher boost pressure, for this reason the turbo is uprated to a hybrid T34 which the Escort Cosworth had as the T3 will be on it's limits by now, this is basically sized between the standard T3 and the T4 of the RS500, and a bigger intercooler to cool the boosted air now produced. Power for this is 330-350HP.

The power is the same for all the Sierra range the turbo being the problem after stage 2 hence why it is uprated. With the RS500 and Escos this is not a problem as they have bigger to start with.

Edit: Forgot to mention the uprated actuators as has been said.

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Old May 29, 2010 | 10:04 AM
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Every tuner is different... here are ours:
http://www.motorsport-developments.c..._packages.html
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Old May 29, 2010 | 11:01 AM
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Also depends what pub you drink in for BHP figures
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Old May 29, 2010 | 05:59 PM
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Also depends what pub you drink in for BHP figures
Fpmsl....yeh your right there.
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Old Jun 5, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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thanks 4 that guys is that the same 4 the escort cossie 2 or just serria cossies?
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Old Jun 5, 2010 | 04:43 PM
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what year is the escos?
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Old Jun 6, 2010 | 10:34 AM
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just any of them ie small and big turn 1s just want 2 know thats all
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Old Jun 6, 2010 | 04:08 PM
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People say you cant do much to the small turbo escos,s but ive seen a few that have decent power.
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Old Jun 6, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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As I say Escort Cosworths tend to make more power at stage 3 due to the larger turbo, max power for ST is around 300BHP although there is a little project going on whereby the turbo can be changed and work with the EEC management.

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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 05:36 PM
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i know of a black escort cossie frm harrogate thats very nice seen it on the rollers made good power 300bhpish
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