ok before you say....why the hell would you want an auto box on a cossy, its because im about to start building a kitcar for someone who is dissabled and cant use a manual.

we were going to build a rover v8 with an auto but he's quite young with a ban from driving so they basically started laughing at him


they did say however that they could quote him if we use a 2ltr….so im looking into if it is possible to use an auto box on a 2.0ltr cosworth?

Anyone know if this has been done or if it is possible? If so what box, flywheel ect can be used?

Any comments or replies welcome! (as long as there constructive )

Thanks. darren

 

Hartford motors in Oxford used to do this conversion as a Ł2000 option on
their brand new 2wd cossies.

 

I will have a chat with my bro for you mate as the company he works for converts cars for diabled use. They've even converted a Focus RS for one guy

 

there was feature in 'Performance Ford' back in December 1989 issue.

 

ok thanks guys, any help is great

really is silly though they wont quote him on a rover 3.5 v8 which is like 170bhp ish but are more than happy to quote him for a 220bhp cossie and my ass the bosst will stay standard so make that 300bhp

 

guzzler, dont suppose you have that issue do you? if so any chance of scanning it and posting it up?

 

bttt

 

loadsa grannys had autoboxes on the 2.0s and they have same bolt pattern so the box will physicaly mount up ok

dunno how you get round the eectronics etc. coz the YB ecu wouldnt be able to control an autobox

 

darren
you need to speak to NathR from here because his dad Dave converts cars to hand controls
its a very trick system that you can easily turn off and drive manually
I've been in with dave belting round the Nurburgring in his Z3M with him using hand controls then Nath takes it round in manual
just a thought instead of an auto box

chop

 

Darren, they used the 'A4LD' gearbox.
i will see if i can find the mag & scan it in.

 

He also has a FRS, 350Z and a 300ZX I think like this.

 

ok thanks guys

jim, i know the bellhousing is easy to get round...my concern is what flywheel ect ect

lambchop, cheers will have a word. although i expect that to cost mega money and due to the amount were already spending on the kit we need to keep the spending a bit tight

guzzler, any idea what car the a4ld box came out of? we were thinking a granny cossie box if we can make it fit as that'l take the power if he ever wants to turn the boost up.

keep the info coming guys

 

Stick a bike engine in it and use padle shift to control the sequential box

 

thats a plan tbh

 

You couldn't adapt a V6 a4ld box to fit the 4 pot afaik - could just fit the car with a 24v lump and box though -the easy and cheap way to 220 brake.
Whether the 4 pot a4ld (2.3 scorpio etc.) box can handle the power I am not sure, ok, it probably could have when new and attached to a standard YB.

I'd go along the route of fitting an engine designed for an auto box (FBA, yank V8, Honda/Lexus/Supra or summat) or fitting manual hand controls.
Jojo from the XROC has a XR4x4 2.9 with hand controls for the manual box if you want any info..

 

There's a guy who goes to the norfolk meet. His son, Nath, comes on here, also Mike R knows him. I beleive his business is converting cars for disabled people. He himself is in a wheel chair and has a focus rs, nissan 350z and a bmw m coupe thingy

Might be worth contacting him

 

sean, thats the problem, he can only get insurance for the 2.0ltr cossie, if he could get insurance for a bigger engine then id be putting a rover v8 in with an auto box.

scruff, no good mate...you still need to use the clutch coming down the box dont you.

is this nath guys user name just nath?
will ask but hand controlls are normally for both hands, this guy has little controll over his left leg and hand so not sure how good that would be.....plus it probably costs shit loads

 

Left leg and left hand? In that case, hand controls are silly (they rely on you steering with left hand), just needs a normal auto with a steering ball to use one hand. Bear in mind that it should have power steering for him to be able to use it safely.
Motability sucks for people with convictions doesn't it, five years my missus brother has to wait before he gets back on the scheme (but it has taught him not to drink and drive )

Depending on how good his left hand is, as he can accelerate and brake with his right foot, he could have the clutch control on the steering wheel provided he can change gear with his left hand.

 

Maybe dogbox + automatic clutch of some sorts would be a solution?

 

Shit, you people have RHD :-(((

Gearstick on the right would be more sensible in this situation

 

Not really mate, I just thought of that one, but dismissed it as it's far more important for him to have his good hand to steer whilst changing gear!!!!

 

You don't usually change gears while turning, in fact you schouldn't.. hmmm... is there F1-style affordable box around? Or maybe dog-box + sequential operating for it would be a solution. There are such things for group N/A rallycars they just attach to normal H-pattern gearstick.

 

steering is all sorted, will be fitting a new electronic power strearing (speed sensative and adjustable, ie full assist when parking, no assist above 60mph)

he can use his left hand well enough to select an auto but not really a manual besides his licence dont cover him for a manual

knowone know anymore about putting an auto box on a yb lump then?

 

How much cash he got!?

sequential box!

 

Darren,

have you considered the Zero shift option ? May not be cheap though, but will adapt readily to a 2wd engine/diff cos they have a T5 conversion.

I seem to remember it could be controlled in number of different ways, incld. paddle shift, etc...

Could be something they would be interested in from a PR point of view ?

 

frog, hmmm thats not a bad idea

lewis, he has shit loads of cash (big payout from his accident 10 years ago) but we dont really want to spend silly money as he is getting some other toys at the oment as well

current budget is around 16-17k, buts we have pretty much used all that up

im guna go take a look on the zero shift web site

 

I would try and talk to them as soon as possible too, their marketing people may be really interested, who knows they may even have budget to part-fund this
One of their guys joined this board a while ago, not sure if he's still on.

Let us know how you get on.

 

ive got a granny auto box id donate to a gd cause

 

top guy hold that thought

just trying to find out about the zeroshift box

 

ok, zero shift wont be ready for around 6 months or so and is likely to cost in the region of 5k or so.......will basically have to wait and see.

would probably still be eaiser if i could get a normal auto box in the car

its a nice thought but i dont think they really have anything to gain by helping to fund a road going car (from a marketing point of view )

 

right so come on then people, someone must know ho i get around the 6 to 9 bolt crank problem if i chuck an auto on the yb

even if i need to get some bits machiened up

 

Dazza have u called bernie!?

surely he gotta b the best bet on this bb!

 

what about a quafe seqential box, do you need to use the clutch with those?

 

nope, will do now though

 

Yep, easy answers mate:

Get a pinto crank, you will need to have it dowelled to stop the flywheel / torque converter bolts shearing, it's not much less strong than the cossie one for the sort of power outputs we are talking (and the bearings are cheaper.)
Otherwise, you could get a six bolt pinto steel crank with dowel holes for about 700 quid (probably much less if you import it from Esslinger in the US.
A pinto crank and bearings fit straight into a 205 block and the conrods bolt straight up

P.S. Still don't know about the bellhousing issue though!!

 

Hows about using an auto box from a 80s/90s ford mustang?

They also used a T5 as a manual option so the auto box shouldn't be too hard to fit to a cossy?? And i think they would handle the cossy power and torque better.

Should be plenty of boxes around as i suspect most of the yank tanks were auto.

 

some1 like Brom might no where to get a mustang box!

 

ok, just had a good chat with bernie

a4ld from a granny cosworth will probably be the best bet. guna need to rig up the electronic shift manually to buttons though (kinda trip tronic)

main issue is the coverter plate, ie there aint one with a 9 bolt pattern. so probably going to need to get one made

has anyone got a picture of a torqe converter so i can see what needs doing?

 

right ive got the torque converter as well, urs if u want em ?

 

get the six bolt steel crank then chap