I did try to search for this topic here, but found just old stuff.
So here it goes again.
I have 380 to 400 hp Sierra Cossie, Deka 55lbs, -31, t34, 3 bar, 32 psi, RS500 intercooler, rewired Bosch 044, Ford 071 etc..
I have a Wet Nitrous System /Nitrous Express), 35 hp and 75 hp nozzels, and I am considering to install this system. Does anyone hev copmment on that? It is safe?
Does anyone have installation guideline for me?
Any help and comment appriciated from this great forum!

Greetings from the Volcano Iceland!

 

I personally would sell the kit and use a Wizards Of Nos system, their is plenty of info on here about nitrous on YB's, Rod Tarry (MadRod), Chip and a few other use it with great results.

Chips engine was basically a very similar spec to yours so hopefully he will be along soon to offer you some advice

 

whats wrong with the kit he has?

Im not sure your turbo will last long once the nitrous is on - i know when i had my t34 and 400bhp it needed to changed at every service

 

I'm not a fan of the American kits thats all, I am sure others would give the same advice.

 

Thanks guys, I know this system and it is fine.

Anyone else wants to contribute to this topic? I will try to contact Chip here to get further info, if he doesn't comment here

 

It uses Solnoids & not Pulsoids like a WON system so not as good with a controller . Would not use it other than a low bhp single jet system. Designed for big V8's it is too crude for a YB & your asking for probs.

 

As above, for a progressive system its wizards of nos or nothing, even for use in a fixed hit system though the other make solenoids are less suitable.
They will work though fundamentally.

YB's just love nitrous, I was throwing 125bhp of nitrous down the throat of my snotty old YB for ages and it just took it and took it and plenty of other people have done similar (rapid1 is another good example)
That was on a wizards of nos progressive kit though, so I wouldnt offer it as proof it will take the same power reliably from a fixed hit american kit, but it should still certainly take a decent amount, 75bhp woudlnt make me nervous at all providing its jetted correctly for mixture.

Take a couple of degrees of timing out as well to be sure, you can do this via the octane wires if you are on L8, thats what I did with mine.

 

I've heard it can be mapped in to reduce lag on large turbo applications can this be done with WON controllers?
Cheers Rich

 

You can do that without even needing a controller, just put it on a TPS switch and a boost switch so it comes in at full throttle and goes off at full boost.

 

How effective is it at reducing lag?
Cheers Rich

 

On my T34, I could see 2 bar of boost at 2800rpm with the nitrous used as antilag and 1000rpm later without it, and the time to spool when in the boost threshold was cut by probably 80% or so.

So IMHO, very effective.

My T34 was punchier on the gas than a small turbo escort is!

 

Sorry to jump in - but that sounds very nice

I guess that needs some changing to the chip?

 

This definatley sounds like a good idea.
Rich

 

Depends on the chip, as you are adding extra fuel on the nitrous kit anyway so in theory it should be fine without changing the map, especially if you are able to retard the timing a little with the octane wires to keep that safe too.

The only issue you might have is if you spool the turbo at a point your mapper didnt expect (or more to the point couldnt do during mapping as it didnt have the nitrous to spool it earlier), then he might not have good guesses in there, but in the case of the MSD chip I was using, it was perfect.

 

Thanks for that

I'm on MSD too, so could always give them a call to check, if/when I go down that route

 

Thanks, I am also running on a MSD chip (Motorsport Development, Stu), I am just wondering if it would be okay for me to install the nitrous system without changing the timing at all, I have L6. Any other changes needed?

Can you perhaps advice on the installation? Pictures, guidelines?

I really want to try this here, to show the guys here in Iceland what a Cossie can do.... so you Cossie-specialist in UK, I hope you will help me...

 

Instalation is easy for the level you are going for, just a single injector into the pipe between the intercooler and the TB will be fine.

I would imagine the L6 has octane wires too, PM fluxcapacitor (simon johnson) on here and ask him to view this thread as he is this forum's expert on the YB management systems, hopefully he can reply and state that my assumption is correct or not.

Here is a picture of my install:


But sadly you really cant see much, the pink and blue bits are the solenoids though, and if you look closely along the pipes from them you can just about make out where the injector is.

 

im liking the sound of this may look into it abit more for mine