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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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hows it secured ?????

its doin me tits in now im gonna properly throw a wobbler at it in the morning

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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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think its just pushed in
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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just a push fit,metal to metal
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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What ya fookin about at Matt?
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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pmsl im trying to fit the new oil breather, took the red 2 way thingy off but theres no way that black pipe is gonna budge so the only thing to do is remove the flame trap itself

might try and chop it tommorow but theres other wires nearby so knowing my luck i will chop them too lol

i can move the flame trap by pushing it but it feels very stiff

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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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whats a flame trap ?
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:20 PM
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funny lookin thing under the inlet suppose ot traps erm flames lol
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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Ok.
For now, put the red plastic thing BACK ON and use it as an extension piece so you can pipe onto the top of it with your new pipe.

Dont get stressed over small jobs
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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so how does the flame trap come out anyway,lol?
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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Interference fit.
the more you interfere with it the less it fookin fits usually
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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pmsl,come on how?
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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u canm prise it round with a big bar or screwdriver so the pipe will fit onto it
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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POPEYE,
pmsl,come on how?
I was being serious..lol
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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so it pushes in then,lol
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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i cant fit the red thing back on

















we erm ............errrrrrrrrrrr










destroyed it pmsl


prize what round andy ?
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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the flame trap will prize so u can lign it up for the hose to go on
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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we cant put the hose on yet as the old ford hose is still on and wont come off at all

the one with the 90 bend in it it just will not budge
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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come on everyone help meeeeeeeeeeeee !!!

theres gonna be a fourbie breaking for parts soon lol
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:07 PM
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try and get it to turn m8, once it does it should pull out while you turn it.
i now there aint much room so try jacking car up and go from underneath
im sure u can see it better from there. probally just rusted in a bit
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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i can get it to move rob so i presume its turning

will have a go at that in the morning

hope to see you and stretch on friday
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get some long nose vice grips on the job grip the hose and yank it
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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try get a pry bar or screwdriver under it, once it starts it'll fly out m8
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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the flame trap ya mean rob ???

andy weve been jumping all over the bloody hose with plyers there is no way its foing to come off

twatting thing lol

how can a car get you sooooooooooooooooooooo mad ????
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 08:30 AM
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Blimey Matt....
Let me try and find you a pic to help you out. Its often easier to do when you know what the bit you cant see looks like
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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Hmm...
The only pictures i have on Photobucket arent going to tell you much, but here they are.....




As you can see, the flametrap spout is quite long and the pipe will have a clip on it also. The bottom of it will also have an oil return pipe going into the sump on yours, so if you want to remove the whole trap, this pipe has to be removed at the sump end first.

I suggest levering at the pipe stub end to rotate the assembly into a better position for access and then removing the clip off your right angled pipe or literally cutting it off. The clip should be just a spring clip so will pull off if your lucky.

Hope this helps Matt.
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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you wont get that flame trap off, believe me, ive tried!

if your fitting a breather, just push the breather hose over the spout on the flame trap and jubilee clip it.

but you will need to remove the original hoses and the meule valve (red ball ) first
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 10:02 AM
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thanks guys weve got the red thing off dave its the black hose coming from the trap were having trouble with

going back out to the car now just got up lol

round 5 ................................ding ding !

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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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Here's a pic:



I have the hose to my breather on the bit numbered '2'
Oh, and 1A is the cossy one.
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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Steve you have your breather plumbed in wrong then.
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Originally Posted by 3drstretch
Steve you have your breather plumbed in wrong then.
Thanks. It's one of those 'jobs for a rainy day'
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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Get out there now it not THAT cold.
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St3V3_C,
Oh, and 1A is the cossy one.
Both are Cosy.. 1A is later revision and far more effective as it returns oil to the sump.


3drstretch,
Steve you have your breather plumbed in wrong then.
You will find he has probably retained the Ford designed 4x4 systems oil return to sump which is VERY effective, so not a bad error all in all
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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Shut up Stu. Wot do you know.


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Slightly less than sweet FA and lovin it
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
You will find he has probably retained the Ford designed 4x4 systems oil return to sump which is VERY effective, so not a bad error all in all
Still got it on wrong though
He's got it on part number '2' on that diagram,that part should have been fooked off with pipe going straight onto flame trap
This still would leave oil return to sump

A reply that Stu has'nt read properly

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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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pic 1 : installed with the red bit pulled off the top.

pic 2: removed with the oil return and block connections to the bottom.

pic 3: block with it removed - see where the oil return from your new breather shuold go - into the sump where the old one came from.


and pic 4: with the new breather pipe fitted with a nipple into teh block - this is 1 port of your new breather.
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admitidly - this is all very much easier with the head off
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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and my 'dead good' breather pic........



eddited to say - the pic SHOULD say oil return on the "passenger" side where the std seperator return it to
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Why have you taken out the flame trap.
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 3drstretch
Why have you taken out the flame trap.
Don't think you really need it when running a aftermarket breather kit
because its not connected to inlet theres no chance of a flame going back
into sump

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