Waht do you think about the new performance manifold for rs turbo?is here anybody who by this part and can give some experience ?https://www.burtonpower.com/product_...=97&sTxt=cv500

 

IMO you will not notice an improvement over the stock item no.

 

essentially a standard manifold, welded and not cast, i think if you had a measure up of the standard one it would be near identical as would the flow figures.

Rob,

 

But two of the cylinder outlets of the standart manifold are connected an then all other collect to the flange.I think it is an advance to prevent an heat bild up for the "I´m belive it was the thirt cylinder" .But i don´t think that i get much more power.may be a litte amount from the promised value...

 

In essence it's a better design doing away wit hthe siamese ports on cylinders 3&4....but there's plenty of big power ones on the standard manifolds so can't be that big an issue. I bought one when they first came out, didn't actually dyno the car with it on to see the difference but i'd have been surprised if it had made a massive gain, the only gripe i had with mine was it kept blowing manifold gaskets which i eventually worked out that the flange wasn't flat! The way they're constructed there is also a slightly larger gap between the turbo housing and the no.4 primary, so should be able to fit a lrager turbo on without having to use a spacer. I never got round to having mine refaced so went back to the standard one lol, still sat in the garage somewhere gathering dust

 

Thank´s for your comment.I think i can spend my money for other parts.
Best regards.Jörg

 

this is the one i run costs 250

 

wish i could use something such as the above, i cant though as the front panel is in the way.

 

you see, that looks like it does something worth while lol compared with the one up top!

 

would like to see back to back test on different manifolds

maybe an idea for one of the mags

 

One of gary's manifolds? If so there worth buying

 

that 1 above looks mint, is that for a standard T3

 

looks like a t34 fitted so should fit a t3 oki

 

its a t34 thats on it but a t3 would fit have also done them with gt28/30 turbo's

 

cheers rob and we've had it to 350 so far on a zetec too so now it can move the air that my little cvh can throw at it and i think it might be part of the reason it spools up quite quick for a t34 on a 1600

 

The AS one looks shit

 

Why do people think the siamese port is an issue?

Gas isn't traveling down both the ports at the same time.

Granted it will become an issue but only when you start to get restrictions of flow. Has anyone found the limit of the manifold yet?

 

Some of the best manifolds are 4-2-1 in any case, so 1&4 are siamesed and 2&3 too.

 

I know a few cars running very healthy power on stock manifold.

 

think close to 400hp has been pushed through a standard manny

 

[quote=project rs;4723108]this is the one i run costs 250

SWEET.

 

i will second that.

 

a better flowing manifold will improve volumetric efficiency, that said the standard one is good enough for most high powered turbos.

 

right we know the std manifold will take pretty much what ever we can throw at

but

would a tubular jobbie make much difference throughout the rev range?
this is what i would like to see tested

 

This is wot i would like to see, back to back on the same car- see if it helps smooth the torque/power curve or aids response etc
I'd guess the shiney copy of the standard one wouldn't be worth wasting your time on though lol- might be wrong though would be good to see.

 

It has been tested with a very reputable tubular manifold, when the tubular one cracked the standard one was put back on, and guess what, no difference in the way the car drove!!

Better off spending money in more criticle areas such as the inlet side of things imo

 

from the evidence presented over the years from cars like Christians, Tims and Ollies i'd forget changing the standard manifold. there are better things to spend money on from what i can see. the only time i'd bother changing the manifold is if i wanted to move the position of the turbo for packaging reasons. as i'll never get to the stage where maxing the manifold out will be an issue i'll personally be keeping the standard manifold and spending my pennies elsewhere like on getting the shell spotless and rust free.


regards

Tom

 

who was the reputable company?

any pictures, graphs or anything you could share about the tubular one they made

should of put a std manifold on mine when it was on the dyno
im sure there would of been a big difference

 

What do you think the big difference would have been? Genuine question lol, with everyone saying they're a waste of money although i know yours isn't the usual 200bhp engine

 

OMG.only common sense that the ford item was made at a budget just like the head was.Its a very poor design and any improvement over the ford item is worth it.If money tight then why bother.save your pennies. You will notice gains but only on high tuned engines will you get your moneys worth,eg over 200Bhp.Turbo will kick in that little earlier too.:-p

 

my manifold was designed with torque and response in mind

will need to get it on the rollers to see what its like in car but it worked well on the dyno

doing exactly what it said on the tin

then again it is a ava manifold and those guys certainly know their onions, my last ava manifold was spot on aswell

 

Hello Gus mate, im not divulging which company but all I can say is trust my opinion as im sure you know I donyt talk the talk. Your engine is a bit extreme though isnt it, I should rephrase my post really,

unless you are going all out on and engine and trying to squeeze out every ounce of power then the tubular manifold is best left closer to the end unless money is no object.

By the way Gus, picked up a nice pair of goodies for you this afternoon



Im developing a modified cast manifold to accomodate an external wastgate, I couldnyt find a COST EFFECTIVE tubular manifold which gave gains to justify the extra cost, it would be really good if someone was willing to put the car through the paces on the roller to see what sort of gains they get. I would be willing to donate a external wastgate kit and manifold for this if other tuners followed suit

Its all in the name of R&D and we are all on the side

God that sounds criptic

 

yeah make you right

my engine is not your run of the mil spec

but then i dont think t28 rst's spec was that mega but he see good results from his manifold

goodies look real good for what you paid

when should i be expecting a parcel then, im in all next week to sign for it

 

i will put richies on the rollers in the summer on the standard manifold and then with mine and post the graphs.

 

Gus you will be waiting a white, they have a few dents which need sorting then I will make a couple of moulds from them, realistically a couple of months as luca is on my case atm.

Mr cage I have some goodies for you too, which rolling road are you thinking of using for the testing? I know of a few I can call in a few favours

 

never mind mr luca lego hair

yeah just pulling your leg

 

will keep you updated, bet you thought I forgot.lol

 

cool even better then if its not going to cost as much . i use a dd roller near me most of the time but as a back to back test any roller will do mate.
p-s i need to build a new 3" down pipe for the standard manifold just for the test.

 

p.p.s. I need a full exhaust.com sorting for mine!!!!

 

heres a little snap of the richies mate