Im getting a new house in a couple weeks and i want to get spotlights put in straight away soon as i get te keys before i move stuff in so i want to get the lights so i have them already

My qusstion is how many spotlights do you think you would need in a rectangluar room 29 feet by 13 feet wide?

Thanks

 

There is no straight answer. Depends what the room is used for, furniture layout etc.

But fitting too many, and using a dimmer can make sense. Also, access may also dictate where and how many are fitted.

You can get low energy fittings that appear similar to the spots too, although they do require depth to install.

 

In my living room which is 6m x 4m we have 10 arranged in 4 rows.

3 | 2 | 3 | 2

All line up diagonally and were put in by a mate of mine. We have dimmable ones.

 

Yeah I was thinking about low voltage dimable ones

It's for a living room / kitchen area

one problem might come up with layout of them is there is 2 smoke alarms on the ceiling too

basically at the min there us a light in the center with another light either side and the the smoke detectores are inbetween the middle light and the one next to it if that makes sense

 

Are you doing it yourself ?

 

For got to say also I have roof space above the room so access will be fine

are the low energy ones as bright White light as the 12v spots?

 

Not unless the electrician is really really expensive lol

the developer wanted Ł70 per spot light
so that's why I'm doing them once I get the keys

tho I want to have lights sitting ready so soon as I get the keys he can start straight away

also getting spots in both bathrooms too but obv they will be differnt ones for above shower etc

 

70 quid a light isnt a bad price, my electrican charges 60per light but thats for a fire rated item of good quality and he also gaurentes it. By law your not allowed to touch this, bathroom ones need to be ip rated

 

It isnt so much quantity of fittings, as positioning. Position over worktops so there arent any shadows, same for tables etc. No real need for excessive amounts in other areas.

I fitted some of the 13w low energy ones over the desk in a Leisure centre, and they worked very well. I'd say that no, they arent as bright as the typical spot, but I'd say most of those are excessively glarey anyway.

I also think that the low voltage 12v/50W types are brighter than the G10 240v versions.

But different lamp designs can also affect that.

Trying to find a link to the low energy types, but cant find any. The ones I fitted used a 13W PL tube, mounted vertically downwards. So they only appeared to be circa 75mm diameter on the ceiling. Offered a more subtle light than conventional spots

 

Ł70 per light each room ye, but you wouldn't go charging Ł70 per spot

 

i fitted some spots the other day GU10's but with the new 4W LED's in them very impressive

 

what do you charge then ?

 

i would price spots on the time it takes me rather then per point, but im not the robbing type

 

I think we gave my mate Ł100 to do it. We bought the spots so about Ł150 all in.

 

get some gu10 240v ones mate, you get fully enclosed one cheap at whole salers, 70 a light is shocking!

 

is there any insulation in the void? if so you will have to get hoods for the spots for safety

 

is that why my sparkys driving a 911 ?

 

thats what fully enclosed onea are for mate

 

10 years down the line and im driving a CTR so think i went wrong some where with my prices

 

thats a new build price per spot though

 

you want a job

 

sorry, where did he says he was getting fully enclosed ones?

 

even worse as anything for a new build is EASY

 

thats a normal price around here mate, sounds like your working in the wrong area

 

An electrician a friend uses says rough idea he'd charge us about 40 a light

I thought 70 for new build was but over the top as electrician would be there anyway

I agree with paying for time taken instead of per spot tho

 

i said in a prev post to get fully enclosed ones from the whole salers

 

imagine if i had charged Ł70 each here

 

must have been sending my response same time as yours then, didnt see what you had wrote

 

Ł2240?

 

you can only see half the room

 

low voltage defo better than 240 v gu10 as much chrisper white light. led is defo gettin better but lamps are expensive if you want good light output. dont buy the Ł6 led lamps cause they are shit. only need fire rated caps for down lights with living accomodation above for building regs but we fit them as standard as better job with insulation etc. if you use these make sure you buy the heat down lamps or else you will burn the leads out over a period of time. Best way is labour and materials but will prob work out about Ł35-Ł40 per spot including materials. Dont buy that shit from screwfix

 

I was thinking of these for the living/kitchen

http://www.robusdirect.com/catalogue...SP-13&catID=56

and these ones for the bathrooms

http://www.robusdirect.com/catalogue...SP-13&catID=56

What is the IP rating mean? i See these have IP20 and ones for bathroom has IP65

 

youd be driving a better car for a start

 

yea but you didn't show me the whole room did you?

 

[QUOTE=daviddunlop83;4703450]I was thinking of these for the living/kitchen

http://www.robusdirect.com/catalogue...SP-13&catID=56

and these ones for the bathrooms

http://www.robusdirect.com/catalogue...SP-13&catID=56

What is the IP rating mean? i See these have IP20 and ones for bathroom has IP65[/QUO
ip ratings determine there suitability for the area of use they are being fitted ie bathroom kitchens etc

 

stop been picky

 

Don't think that because you have a fully enclosed light (I guess you mean fire rated) that you can put loft insulation directly on top. You can't!!

 

Can I not just remove the insulation from were the spots are

sorry if that's stupid question but I don't know and just curious

That's why I'm getting an electrician who knows what he's doing to install them all

 

Yes mate, usually need 150mm clearance all around.

 

ahh right cool. Cheers