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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 06:14 PM
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Default m.o.t laws on heavily modded cars....???

whats the crack with making ur own car at the mo...???.....eg cossying a mk1, 2,3, or a focus or anything else......have the laws clamped down.......tell me is it an easy fix........

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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 06:17 PM
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Dunno pete but i'd like a 4wd focus cosworth.
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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 06:20 PM
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Dunno pete but i'd like a 4wd focus cosworth.
.....thats my next move..........
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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 06:31 PM
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whats up with the saff pete , heard its parked up till chrimbo ,

hope they aint tighntend anything just yet , not till mines finished lol

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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 06:03 AM
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positive i read on here about new m.o.t laws or vosa making it hard to alter from std
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 05:33 PM
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one last time..................maybe it was just the voices in my head..???
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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im unaware of anything to stop you.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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im unaware of anything to stop you.
.....must have just been in my dreams.............
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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....but then theres also lots of other things im also unaware of .
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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This was posted up on ZSOC today:

http://www.yell.com/motoring/blog/wa...e-transplants/
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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i read that the other week. wasnt there an issue with it not being law but merely a future idea?
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Rcjm88
......knew i wasn't going mad (er)
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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make you own!!-are you not aware of manufacturing your own car as was the escort g3!
it wasnt ford who made it!! bare unreg shell and your away,dont forget the engineers report when done .
fia rules as was for rally cars -must be as manufacturers spec etc.
a lot of companys make them---------make your own.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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but i'm onabout taking a 1.6 focus shell and turning it into a 430bhp 4x4 cossie powered beast................
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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and use your car as donor car pete????
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by righthooker
and use your car as doner car pete????
..........yes fella....but whats kebabs got to do with it..???......
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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Just do it! Come to that hurdle when its finished!!!
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pete mcrash
..........yes fella....but whats kebabs got to do with it..???......
LOL

Are you getting sick of your saff pete.You must have an everyday car now instead of using the saff all the time.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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All they are doing is bringing a lot of heavily modified vehicles under the same rules as kit cars requiring them to go through an IVA test.

This is supposed to only effect "radically altered vehicles" and that is still a rather open definition.

Looking at the regulations the way round it is to build from a new shell with mostly new parts and go down the kit car route as a "kit conversion".

Where theres will theres a way.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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As of yet there is nothing stated in the MOT testers manual if you want to 4x4 cosworth your focus with 200 or 1000 hp you can end of as long as everything testable on the car passes as with a normal MOT test the only hurdle that may affect you depending on year of focus you are using dependent on year will either be 0.5 or 0.3 co limits
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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Doug - The emissions test goes on wether the vehicle OR engine is older (for engine transplants).

For example, you put a 1992 Cosworth 4x4 engine into a 2007 Focus shell then the emissions test will be for the age of the engine and not the vehicle.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Graceland
Doug - The emissions test goes on wether the vehicle OR engine is older (for engine transplants).

For example, you put a 1992 Cosworth 4x4 engine into a 2007 Focus shell then the emissions test will be for the age of the engine and not the vehicle.
Grace if you read the manual it stipulates was the vehicle 1st used on or before ( not engine ) for emission testing ,


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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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my last mot was based on the ford as the engines older than the car. the oldest is what the mot man told me. that was 2 years ago now htough.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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Thing is most of these laws regarding cossie converted cars etc already exist its just that it has been hard to enforce as traditionally the MoT man doesnt care if its radically altered as long as it pass's the safety aspect of MoT, where as if DVLA gets its full way then presenting a radically altered vehicle for MoT might be harder.

Thing is technically if you do a cossie conversion then you should go through IVA anyway as its a rebuilt/RAV anyway. Its just that people have been getting away with it so far.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug
Grace if you read the manual it stipulates was the vehicle 1st used on or before ( not engine ) for emission testing ,
Not according to this: http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_730.htm
Vehicles Fitted with a different engine

Test according to which is older, engine or vehicle.
e.g. A 1995 car fitted with a 1991 engine (of whatever make), test to 1991 standards for emission purposes.

Note: The onus is on the vehicle presenter
to prove engine age.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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Like you have just posted Warren its on the tester to prove that the engine is older than vehicle hence why the rule is in place ( Test as presented ) Now if customer has relevent paperwork i.e. engineers report to prove age of engine then yes you can test on engine and not vehicle age.


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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 08:38 PM
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I just show them the engine number on V5 and the "engine date table" from the burton power catalogue and thats usually enough proof for them to accept engine date.
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