Ford Sierra/Sapphire/RS500 Cosworth This forum is for discussion of all things pertaining to the Ford Sierra Cosworth.

Running rough when cold

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 9, 2009 | 09:22 PM
  #1  
babscossie's Avatar
babscossie
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 591
Likes: 0
From: sunny stortford. herts
Default Running rough when cold

Hello guys,

Any ideas................. RS 500 running rough when cold, won't rev and hunting.
Once engine is warm, runs pretty much perfect.
Any ideas other than coolent temp sensor??

Cheers guys

Dave
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2009 | 09:33 PM
  #2  
LHD220Turbo's Avatar
LHD220Turbo
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 10,655
Likes: 18
From: swindon, wiltshire
Default

i'd put my money on the coolant sensor although, when they bugger up its normally the other way round

its going to be sensor related
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2009 | 09:33 PM
  #3  
nice_head's Avatar
nice_head
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 948
Likes: 0
From: Essex
Default

ICSV?
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2009 | 09:47 PM
  #4  
AndyPen's Avatar
AndyPen
Advanced PassionFord User
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,907
Likes: 20
Default

Originally Posted by nice_head
ICSV?
Yup have you tried disconnecting it?
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2009 | 11:03 PM
  #5  
babscossie's Avatar
babscossie
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 591
Likes: 0
From: sunny stortford. herts
Default

Originally Posted by AndyPen
Yup have you tried disconnecting it?

Not tried disconnecting it yet. Is this a common fault with these??
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2009 | 06:39 AM
  #6  
bad boy rs's Avatar
bad boy rs
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,571
Likes: 0
From: watFORD
Default

mine does this, changed every sensor apart from the iscv, when its disconected its much better
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2009 | 06:43 AM
  #7  
kosienutter's Avatar
kosienutter
Last Time, Get Off PF FFS
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,705
Likes: 34
From: Nuclear Submarine
Default

would taking the sensor out and giving it a good clean help?
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2009 | 08:34 AM
  #8  
tabetha's Avatar
tabetha
20K+ Super Poster.
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 24,596
Likes: 4
From: uk
Default

The CTS ideally should be chnaged every few years, as it is so important and is the major governing factor for CO.
They cannot be cleaned as they are a sealed unit, the fact that it is ok when up to temp suggests CO is a bit weak when cold, this won't be due to a duff iscv, as all this does is raise the revs, it has no control over mixture.
I would put in a new CTS, then adjust to around 2% -2.5% CO, or what it likes best, if it is chipped seek the advice of the author of the chip.
tabetha
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2009 | 12:43 PM
  #9  
AndyPen's Avatar
AndyPen
Advanced PassionFord User
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,907
Likes: 20
Default

I suspected an inlet leak when one of my cars did what you described but it turned out to be the ISCV. Inlet leaks can disappear once everything expands when hot so that's the way my mind went, with a 500 there are a few places for it to do that I guess.

ISCV was cleaned by specialists Promax (Geoff Dewitt's old team) and the nut loc tighted back on but I didn't trust it so replaced it (didn't want anything falling off and into the engine). It did make a world of difference but as Tab says sensor could be sending the CO2 all over the place.

Am still running the replacement ISCV 7 years later and the problem has never come back... but its a cossie so one day it will - lol
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
xrmalin
Ford Escort RS Turbo
19
Sep 13, 2015 06:52 PM
natehall
Ford Focus (All Models)
5
Sep 8, 2015 05:13 AM
stevierob
Technical help Q & A
2
Sep 7, 2015 07:09 PM
wheelwizardrefurbs
Technical help Q & A
2
Sep 5, 2015 10:52 AM
gingeRS
General Car Related Discussion.
6
Sep 4, 2015 06:29 PM




All times are GMT. The time now is 02:57 PM.