so i had the beast set up on the r/r yesterday
anyone wanna guess the bhp output?
its a 1.6 efi engine stage 3 t3 turbo
superchip
10psi



closest person gets a smartie

 

176bhp

 

190bhp on Optimax/Super
183bhp on 95 unleaded

 

At the wheels or estimated flywheel power?

 

Reality - 160bhp, r/r fantasy - anything!

 

My gestimate is @Fly as thats probably what his print out is!

 

at the wheels

 

154bhp @ wheels

 

30bhp??

 

hahahaa joffy no smarties for u
generally all over the shop but karlos wins
184.5

 

gutted, i fuckin love smarties

 

What did you do to your car that makes it produce the same power at 10 psi that most other rs turbos produce at 16-17 psi?

 

other than the mods listed
nothing other than 301 webber injectors
the engine was from a breakers so other than me changing the head gasket ive no idea
im pleased tho

 

Oh, EFI, I see now.. that makes the difference

 

i thought hi-tec always gave flywheel figures on their rolling road print outs?

 

Yay I won something!!!
Although i was guessing @Fly not @wheels

So 212Bhp@Fly is a good result mate, that stage 3 T3 must really be getting the gasses in and out!

 

its capable of a lot more but the clutch started slipping so i need a new one of them next and its on the standard intercooler so yea im please im only looking for the 200 mark anyways so i dnt think ill struggle karlos ur smartys been posted

 

Cheers! Look forward to my smarties! lol

 

great result for whp, bet your well pleased

does efi mke that much diffrence

 

Not that i don't believe that's what your printout said but 184bhp at the wheels with just 10psi and a standard intercooler is very optimistic imo, in fact as i'd go so far as to say it wouldn't actually be that power in reality.....

 

I don't think youre car made 184 BHP at 10 psi,no matter how much the turbo was modified!!!Standard head,std cams and a std interwarmer!!!Bloodly hell,I must get my car on them rollers,it will make 600 BHP!!!!! Micky

 

so it was setup at hi-tec then? paaahahahahahahhahahahahaha

 

184.5 ATW with these mods

1.6 efi
stage 3 t3 turbo
superchip
10psi

Bollocks

It wouldnt even make that figure at the flywheel

 

then i guess the rr is lying to me thats what the printout says

 

Whatever makes you happy, orion88

 

lets see the printout!

 

well yeh, this was what my initial reaction was too, but didnt wana rain on the kids parade lol

i think its safe to say you could estimate the power more accurately yourself by attempting to bite down on the wheel with your own teeth, as opposed to trusting their rollers

 

hahahahaha hvae they got a rep for not being that accurate then?
like i said i have no idea what been done to the engine other than what i have done which the above listed
im not here to prove my point i was merely having a bit of fun
some of yas need to pull the brooms out ur asses

 

lol dont take it to heart mate, im not dissing your motor, just hi-tec always seem to supply rather questionable results

a while ago a lad i know came back with a power figure at the wheels higher than my fly figure i got after my session down jamsport. this is bearing in mind his car was standard except a chip and actuator, and running 5psi less than mine

but the main thing is so long as your happy with it and it keeps u sweet, then no real worries man, and if your that worried about gettin a more accurate power figure, now its set up at least u can just pop along to a RR day for a cheap power run at somewhere reputable

 

TBH RR BHP figures are pretty much useless, no two are alike and no two operators do things exactly the same!
Great for setting the car up though, fuelling, timing, boost etc...

If you want real BHP figures then an Engine Dyno is the only accurate way to do it IMO.

Orion88 I agree people take things too seriously on here and indeed a lot brooms need removing PMSL!

 

ahahaha i dnt take it personally at all
im happy that it runs properly and is fueling great to be honest im getting 35mpg as opposed to my 15 and the boost spluttering is gone so for that the session was totally worth the money
just nice to have a figure in mind and a starting post to go from

 

second that

 

Can i borrow this topic? I am currently building new engine and i want to know approx power what it will give.
And the specs:

-1600 rst bottom end rebored + 0.5mm
-EFI Head with matched intake+exhaust manifolds, reconditioned head with some porting.
-Piper 285T2 cam kit & adjustable pulley properly timed.
-EFI intake manifold (matched), 380cc injectors
-Megasquirt efi ecu+wasted spark
-Std exhaust manifold & std t03 turbo+31 actuator
-Mongoose 2.5" bore exhaust
-Pipercross filter
-Airtec big cooler

I am thinking something like 18-19 PSI of boost. 200 bhp from the engine?

 

Antti O- yeah you wont be far off with a decent intercooler.. dont bother with the piper cam, they're not great on 1.6 engines.. drop the compression ratio and fit a larger turbo and you'll be in a much better position.

 

I have 2 cams, cvh 35 from kent and piper 285t2. 285T2 is good condition (like new) and i think i will use it because if i want std efi cam from ford it would cost 200+lifters..
I am afraid that 285t2 is so "high rev" cam so is useless but i think i give a try. I will get larger turbo & better exhaust manifold in next winter, but this "first summer" i am gonna drive with this package. Can std t03 handle 18-20psi?

 

Antti O- yes, but you'll hit other limits before that.. aim for around 1.1-1.2 bar and you should be okay.

 

Okay.. can you tell me which are the next limits that i should upgrade? Turbo & exhaust manifold are obvious but how far i can go with std pistons & rods.