Are they actually proper Old Bill operating them or is it just some Cop Idol playing Policeman?

What I mean is, what would be the legal implication of say... someone driving by one of these forward facing vans with no front number plate and maybe... flipping them the bird?

 

Fuck knows - almost as annoying as me driving up to the one I know at 10mph under the limit and then nailing it off up the dual once past him

 

No they aint propper policemen.

They are a seperate organisation.

 

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Support and
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All the speed camera vans round my way, or at least the ones I've seen have police motorbikes cruisin round waiting to nick abyone who has gone through over the limit! So be fuckin careful what ever you do!

 

 

could they still get you from takign a photo of your tax disc?!?!?!

 

Unless they have super resolution zoom style camera i doubt it.

 

well they do tax checks with them vans so its quite possible

 

A question ive been wondering about, would the camera vans be any use whatsoever at night?

Im guessing they'd have to use infared to be effective?

At the moment im only on the road in the dark

 

Tax disc checks? Does that mean I should display mine? I don't as they tend to get nicked easily round here.

 

Just do what a friend of mine did a few years back:

He had a company Transit van and was driving along in it one evening (as you do when it's not your petrol ) Noticed one of those speed trap vans in a layby on an A road outside some houses (which the residents used to park in)

So he pulls in, reverses right up to the camera. Parks up. Pulls some sandwiches out and has a little rest stop. Blokey operating the van was fuming but there was nothing he could do, I think he even pulled out after he'd packed it all away right behind him. Co-incidence or what! LOL

 

FPMSL

 

They will be checking the plate against the database to see if it has tax, not looking at the actual disc.

 

i have been told, the blokes in the vans are Minsitry of Transport.

 

hah what most likely would happen, is the guy sat in the drivers seat would then write down your number plate!

how do you think they get bikers!

 

Some are operated by the (*cough*) Safety (*cough*) Camera Partnerships whilst others are actually operated by the Police themselves.

When I took my mums car to a PF meet I picked up MadMac with Switch and b19bal and on the way back up the M10 Mac and I flipped the camera van the bird. Never heard anything about it and my Mum never came and said anything so I'm assuming she didn't get anything from it.

 

whats flipping the bird

 

Single finger salute

 

In Lancashire they have the "Speed enforcement Team" which drive police vans but have orange lights on instead of blue. They were advertising for it in the paper about 6 months ago. They have no power of arrest as far as I am aware, so they can't pull you over, which is fantastic if you have a jammer, because the only dodgy thing about them was if the police pulled you over and inspected your car.

Oh, and they work shift patterns too, including bloody 11pm at night at the bottom of hills

 

It varies in Lancashire. The scamera partnership would have us believe they are all coppers (I wrote and asked them a couple of months ago and that is what they said), but frankly I don't believe them, and as Dave E says, they have special vans now. But its an interesting point. The law on speeding allows the evidence from speed measurement devices to be used in court to support the opinion of a "police constable" that a particular vehicle was speeding. So what are the implications if it wasn't a police constable that saw a vehcile speeding, but a civilian employed by the scamera partnership? The primary evidence, the opinion that the vehicle was speeding, is arguably not admissible in court. That leaves the secondary evidence which cannot stand alone. Anyone caught speeding by a camera operated by a civilian should take urgent legal advice and perhaps visit http://pepipoo.com/NewForums2/index.php for an opinion. Scamera partnerships are on really dodgy ground with this!

Incidentally, when the Freedom of Information Act comes in in January, I will ask the Scammers the same question again and this time they won't be able to lie to me....

 

i saw one a mpv silver .. all blacked out windows ..with a wind jammer
luggage holder on the roof that was the cam holder..small black
base plate on the back of the jammer ,plus mpv was sitting in a laybuy
a road only 30 limit .. i was going the wrong way clocked
road turned left and stopped was gonna take pics but he nodded and said
walk on there was 3 cams in the car ..that way normal going to mates
banned its a dead road for quarter a mile
walking home..

 

i always give them a salute them as i drive by wan#ers!!!!!!!!!!!

 

EVERYTIME i go past one i do this! force of habit i guess!
theve never done anything to me.. i dont have a front numberplate either! ive gone hooning it past one on the dual carriage way doing a ton plus (way over a ton! ) and never even got stopped by the swarm of bikes that were up ahead!

 

the ones near me are deffo coppers coz my mate who is a copper mans the one right outside my house!!!

 

i always give the since i got done for speeding,
talking of cameras, did anyone see that 5th gear ( i think? mabey top gear) a while ago tell us all about the cams?
the fixed yellow ones dont send out radar, they use sensors in the road.
theses are the fuckers that have been put up over here on the tiny old isle of wight! wish i had know this b4 i got my detector