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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 04:52 PM
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Me and Rob have finally got round to buying this clio "williams" that my mate was selling cheap that I mentioned on here before as we decided we want something totally disposable and cheap to run that we can just jump in for random last minute trackdays and not giving a toss about.

2 minor problems with it:

1) its a not a williams like he thought, its just been stickered as one, its a 1.8 16v

2) it doesnt have any drive at the moment, its got either a fucked diff or box or driveshaft, not bothered to look which yet.



Plans:
Fix whatever is stopping it from driving
Its already got a filter and decent exhaust, so just a service for the engine
Strip it out
Fit some cheap buckets I had lieing about
plus 3 point harnesses (swapped for a meal out cheers mongo!)
Cut the front springs down one coil to make the suspension a bit harder or fit some cheapy firmer springs (not looked at them properly yet to decide)
Drop the torsion bar down a touch
Whack on some grippy pads on the standard brakes
Get some sort of sticky tyres onto it
Drive it
No doubt ending with crashing it somewhere on a racetrack and throwing it in the bin


Total budget we're aiming to come in around is 500 quid including taxing it
(not including tyres)

Spent so far:
250 quid to buy



I dropped it off at the naval base this lunchtime for rob to crack on with stripping out, so hopefully he'll get some pictures of it up later, deal is I supply the parts and he supplies the labour as at the moment he's skint but got some spare time and access to a ramp/tools etc for a few hours a week or so.

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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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2) it doesnt have any drive at the moment, its got either a fucked diff or box or driveshaft, not bothered to look which yet.
More than likely the 'clips' which hold the drivershafts in are fooked. Easy to break and easy to fix. My mate is into 16 valver Clios and he's done LOADS of them. Always fixing them, remember him telling me about are troublesome and common they are.
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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Apparently the 1.8 16v is the engine to have over the williams as it's easier to tune. if thats your plan. Sounds like a giggle though.
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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when you know what it is thats broke, Chip. Clio lord on here (very occasionally)
im sure will be able to sort some bits for you. hes in Bath/Bristol area
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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with renaults its usually the diffs that have collapsed that causes no drive i've found
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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i bought one of these a while ago,take the n/s driveshaft out(it should be 3 bolt type at box)

when you get the shaft out in the box there is a circlip that holds the diff in place,more than likely it will be broken,they are about Ł1.80 from renault

easiest way to tell is to get in the car and drive it,if the speedo goes up but the car dont move it will be this clip

hope this helps mate
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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Chip give me a call my mates got 2 of theses car that he wants rid of 1 if a runner and the has electrical faults but is mint and has modifications done both are 1.8 16v so would do you for plenty of spares
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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i hear the front wings are prone to rust.....
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by xr-stu
i hear the front wings are prone to rust.....
Being metal, they probably can rust?
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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being plastic, they probabaly cant i was being sarcastic.
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 07:10 PM
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its a mk1 clio? they are metal?
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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im certain the mk1 clio i help a mate do some stuff on had plastic wings, maybe im dreaming it but i am certain.
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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mk1 16v clios have plastic front wings
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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Cool car chip, was thinking about these yesterday. Remember the advert for the willams? [french accent] two litresssss into wan clio..... eet goooes [/french accent]
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 07:43 PM
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Everyday is a schoolday for paul :P
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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nice car for tracking
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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there good but pull there selves apart my mate broke his coil overs and rear suspension rear bearings front bearings

just driving it on road (HARD)
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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Chip, hows my trailer
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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Chip, but hotel for the Ring Trip on 14-18 May is sorted.

Will let you know details on my PM to everyone on Sunday.
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 08:04 PM
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nice one si
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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after chip dropped it off to me i was going to just park it up, but after finding out there is more problems with my new exhuast manifold the worry for bedford started to set in so thought it best to make a start

first thing was to remove the locking wheel nuts that had no key due to it being broken oooppps

chip had began to drill them out but was going to take a long time, first i tryed some locking wheel nut removers and they did not work either so was not looking good, then i had a brain wave the style of nut ment you could get a punch onto them so i beat them around with a hammer perfect out they come

then i had the bug and it was time to get stripping

first some pics of the car







as you can see form the pics its in very good nick few dents here and there but nothing that is a problem on a track car.









humm far to much interia

so started to make a pile of parts lol



that soon turned into a bigger one



started to get a little dark so stopped with the pics but the front seats are also out as is the drivers door card.

just need to decide if we are going to remove the electric front windows, doors weighs a ton compared to the gte lol

looks very tidy under the bonnet aswell

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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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could I buy the electric window shit off you?

I have a 1.2 LGS(little green shitter) which I love, as it costs me fuck all to run, but would not mind some central locking and electric windows
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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you'll love the valver on track mate. ive had a clio 16v and im a member of renault sports club and kinda a reno man at heart!

lots of mates of mine own them so if u need any parts or help with bits let me know, as i'll know someone somewhere breaking one lol

my mates black 16v clio with the VAG 20v turbo lump fooooookin flew hehe!

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has chip been buying another accusump!? them clios are good cars,
like a 205 but newer and a bit better IMO

only trouble is,, just about anything you have to do to it, means takin the engine out
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
could I buy the electric window shit off you?

I have a 1.2 LGS(little green shitter) which I love, as it costs me fuck all to run, but would not mind some central locking and electric windows
electric windows will be coming out when we've found some plastic windows for it (or made some from a sheet for b&q, lol)
When they do, assuming rob manages to get them out in tact you are welcome to them mate, we dont want anything for them

Its got a pretty cool electric sunroof too if you want that as well?

Feck knows how we post that though
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Its Dave
Chip, hows my trailer
Its all good Dave

Tows spot on
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Originally Posted by pee vee
has chip been buying another accusump!? them clios are good cars,
like a 205 but newer and a bit better IMO

only trouble is,, just about anything you have to do to it, means takin the engine out
Accusump is courtesy of Porkie, it was a spare unused one he had, and he wouldnt take anything for it
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dump them gash wheels sharpish, turbines FTW!
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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Accusump is courtesy of Porkie, it was a spare unused one he had, and he wouldnt take anything for it

what a nice bloke
good luck with it Chip, like i said anything you want for it, i'll ask Gaz over bath way.
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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by xr-stu
dump them gash wheels sharpish, turbines FTW!
What performance advantage on track will that give us for the money spent?
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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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Complete bargain Chipper

I used to have one of these years ago, replaced the engine 1.8 F7P engine for the williams 2.0 F7R and it went very nicely for what it was, handled excellently with coilovers on the front, lowered torsion bar.

Like Dunc im also a member of cliosport.net but not been on there in years!

i'll be keeping an eye on this thread
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Thanks chip give us a shout and I will send you some money for postage mate


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dont use perspex from b&q, make sure it's polycarbonate

can wait to see this on track

keep an eye on the headgasket
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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
What performance advantage on track will that give us for the money spent?
none whatsoever unless they happen to be lighter, they just look miles better!

by the way theres a place between my place and weston that can supply real nice quality 3mm polycarb. cost me just under Ł80 for enough to do the fiesta iirc. which is less than what the shite stuff B&Q sell wouldve costed. i struggled to find 3mm, everywhere before them i looked only did 4mm and 2mm, 4mm being too thick and heavy, 2mm being way to flimsy. i have their business card still if you want thier number.
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Stu, yes send me their number please mate.



Some Gmax budget lowering springs turned up at my place today.

Tenner for the spring and a tenner for postage
Have also ordered from 1144 mintex pads, 45 quid plus tenner postage

So thats 75 quid more of the budget gone.

Robs ordered a couple of the circlips and washers to fix the diff with (worth having spare)
Think thats about 20 quid with some gearbox oil included

So thats 345 quid or so into the budget so far.


Ive also ordered some tyres, but we werent going to include the price of those as thats just a consumable anyway not part of the build as such.


So we've got 155 quid left now and thats meant to include the tax

Only things left to aquire now though that Im aware of are:
Oil / Filter for the engine
Couple of sheets of perspex/polycarb for pikey spec light windows
Some fittings for the Accusump porkie kindly donated


Going to be tight!
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got to love budget track toys, hope you get it all done on budget!
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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it has williams 3 on the side the 3's were 2.0 as were the 2

only the 1 had a 1.8
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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All williams were 2.0 even the 1 mate.

This is none of them, it just has the stickers, LOL


I think including the tax in my budget was a bit ambitious, forgot what theives the government are, might have to exclude that bit, lol
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what power does these have

i have forgotten
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137bhp

So much fun these cars, think im gonna hunt ebay for a knackered one myself now!
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