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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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Anyone ever fitted an FMIC into the front bumper of a RS500, rather than sat in the engine bay like normal?

Guess i'll need to start cracking out the holesaw to get some more air through it?

I realise that an original rs500 bumper is a little on the valuable side to start cutting up, but on the other hand its already painted the right colour and i like the look of it, so i dont want to have to swap to a different one and get it painted and risk it not matching well etc.

I realise my 500 cooler wont fit and i'll need to get a new one (or two) that fit the space better

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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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are you going for huge power? is it needed? or doing to look good?
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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Anyone ever fitted an FMIC into the front bumper of a RS500, rather than sat in the engine bay like normal?

Guess i'll need to start cracking out the holesaw to get some more air through it?

I realise that an original rs500 bumper is a little on the valuable side to start cutting up, but on the other hand its already painted the right colour and i like the look of it, so i dont want to have to swap to a different one and get it painted and risk it not matching well etc.

I realise my 500 cooler wont fit and i'll need to get a new one (or two) that fit the space better
won't the headlights get in the way if you put it in front of the cross member?

or have i got the wrong end of the stick?
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Porkie
are you going for huge power? is it needed? or doing to look good?
Im going to fit a bigger engine, which means the intercooler can no longer sit in the standard location.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
won't the headlights get in the way if you put it in front of the cross member?

or have i got the wrong end of the stick?
If it was still RS500 size then yes, im expecting to have to get a custom cooler made though.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 12:19 PM
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the only sierra ive seen with a front mount was that sapphire built by norris designs, i think the user came on here but i carnt remember his name

the cross member would have to go though, and then make mounting points up which shouldnt be a problem for you at all
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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yeha I dont care about making up mounting points etc, its more a concern over air flow if its that close into the bumper that worries me, the air has chance to spared out before it hits the cooler currently, and im worried cooling ineffiency may drop if I move the cooler into the front bumper.

Was hoping to sit it in front of the cross member if possible, so it can stay complete:


But If I have to get the grinder out its not the end of the world.

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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by xr4x4rs
the only sierra ive seen with a front mount was that sapphire built by norris designs
Theres usually a saff sitting outside AVA in Glasgow with u HUGE front mount on it. Anyone else seen it?
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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Id really prefer it if people cant see the intercooler, I love how my car looks currently, so the less visual changes the better really.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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Buy the core and i'll weld you some end tanks on if you like?
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 12:45 PM
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Will see what space I end up with mate, but that sounds good.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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HOw about using 2 or 3 x 2wd coolers abit like Karl does instead, and sell the 500 item on??

I appreciate he keeps his in the normal position though. But 2 x 2wd may fit under the cross member??????
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 01:56 PM
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HOw about using 2 or 3 x 2wd coolers abit like Karl does instead, and sell the 500 item on??

I appreciate he keeps his in the normal position though. But 2 x 2wd may fit under the cross member??????
Yeah its an option (with different end tanks of course).

Where do Karls fit then? Are they in the bumper?

1 4wd cooler per side of the engine would be ideal, as thats essentially 2 * 350bhp of cooling.

Ive got two 4wd coolers in a box to be a charge cooler for my nova, so Im already aware how good the cores are etc (doug made that too )
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Yeah its an option (with different end tanks of course).

Where do Karls fit then? Are they in the bumper?

1 4wd cooler per side of the engine would be ideal, as thats essentially 2 * 350bhp of cooling.

Ive got two 4wd coolers in a box to be a charge cooler for my nova, so Im already aware how good the cores are etc (doug made that too )
NOt sure exactly; he finds room for a 4 x 2wd one though
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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PS

SBD16v is telling me to just not charge it at all, and make it 400bhp on throttle bodies.

The sound of these engines on TB's might be too much for me though, no good if everytime I put my foot down I ejaculate.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba8sT2BQ4uc
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by s1_turbo
Theres usually a saff sitting outside AVA in Glasgow with u HUGE front mount on it. Anyone else seen it?

are you talking about dumped car,a couple of years ago?

that cooler was the full width of the car,looked unreal,but when bumper was on you couldnt see it

chip i have euans cooler now thats a 60mm pro alloy with a 50mm gen 500 cooler welded together,and the crossmember just needed a bit trimming,where as euans saph needed it cut out and a skinnier 1 put in,so defo more room in the 3-door
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 05:49 PM
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hows a s1 grs size up in comparisent? it will fit under cross member id imagine? could borrow mine if you wanted to try and error?
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by s1_turbo
Theres usually a saff sitting outside AVA in Glasgow with u HUGE front mount on it. Anyone else seen it?


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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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That looks ideal.

Anyone know how much space there is in a rs500 bumper relative to a saph one?
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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alot of work was involved in getting that cooler to fit i spoke to alan about it and i think all the foam comes out the bumper aswell
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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your cooler looks the biz col!
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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could you mount it on a slant like a wrc/drift car if you dont want to crack out the grinder?
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
your cooler looks the biz col!

cheers euan,i honestly cant believe how much i like the exhaust on the car aswell it looks super fat

hardly anything came off back bumper either

sorry chip
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 08:23 PM
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Sorry for what mate? Your pictures are the best thing on this topic so far
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 08:42 PM
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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Just cut the bumper to shit Chip

Makes the 500 bumpers that are left worth even more ,,yipeeeeee
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or chip, i have another idea, how about you swap your bumper for mine, mine is chopped with a big hole in the front, and fits a 3dr.

and i want a 500 bumper lol
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 08:58 AM
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Thats EXACTLY what I dont want mine to end up like TBH
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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have you thought about making the i/c structural and removing the crossmember?
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dojj
have you thought about making the i/c structural and removing the crossmember?
A structural ally intercooler?

No, I hadnt thought about that, nor do I intend to TBH mate.

If the cross member needs removing, i'll weld in some box section
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 09:52 AM
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cut the crossmember out
fit the cooler that you want
reweld the crossmemebr back in where it fits
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by dojj
cut the crossmember out
fit the cooler that you want
reweld the crossmemebr back in where it fits
Yeah I dont mind doing that sort of fab work.
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