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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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Hello. I have an escort t35 with stage1 baijoo. Bosch, Walbro (ggr)?? What you recommend to me?

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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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id stay with the standard item at that power level.

or if you want to change it for peace of mind or the worry that yours may be to old and not work efficiently, id then say go fo a Bosch 003.

if your thinking of upgarding power levels again at a later date then go straight for the Bosch 023 pump and be future-proofed.

aniother good thing to check is that you are definatly seeing a steady 12v supply to the pump at all times.

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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 12:51 PM
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Hello Kelvin,

I want to put one new fuel pump, for the increase of power of stage1 of baijoo.

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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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I have a wallbro uprated pump from GGR and i'm running on greens and a stage 2 chip for the moment.

It's a lot cheeper than the bosch pump and will run perfectly up to 400 bhp

GGR 1012 Uprated Fuel Pump (Escort Cosworth)
Up to 400 bhp, 253 ltrs/hr @ 3.0 BAR pressure
230 ltrs/hr @ 4.0 BAR pressure
206 ltrs/hr @ 5.0 BAR pressure

Bosch Fuel Pump: Flow Qty litres/hour (pressure): 168 (5 Bar )

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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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I would use the walbro up to 430hp.

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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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You can pick up the Walbro pump for Ł75.00 delivered on ebay. Thats what I went for.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 05:27 PM
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I've got a Walbro too, much easier to get in than a big Bosch one that costs a lot more.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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Then, the Walbro a good option?
Is easy to fit in the the tank?

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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Berta
Then, the Walbro a good option?
Is easy to fit in the the tank?

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No worse than the standard pump. The Bosh is a good pump if your going for 400 + BHP as others have mentioned but its much bigger than the Walbro.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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yep - exactly the same size as the ford one.... see...



walbro one at the bottom

and it should have this number on the side...GSS 340
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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Then, what recommends to me you for 300bhp and one stage1 or 2. Bosch or Walbro?

I do not want to put the walbro only for his price.

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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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i had a walbro in my car and it could not supply the fuel for above 370-380 bhp.

i had to get a bosch 003 or a 023 iirc.
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
i had a walbro in my car and it could not supply the fuel for above 370-380 bhp.

i had to get a bosch 003 or a 023 iirc.
I spent a day testing all 3 of those pumps and the walbro out flowed the other 2, You must have had a problem with it or power supply, I all my years or using the walbro I have only had 1 fail.

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the biggest problem with any cossie fuel pump is volt drop due to aging wiring - and as such giving poor pressure and flow
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I guess its just a case of testing the wiring when you have the tank out to fit the pump. Look for 12v at the pump connector etc.
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
i had a walbro in my car and it could not supply the fuel for above 370-380 bhp.

i had to get a bosch 003 or a 023 iirc.
I've had 2 Bosch 023 and they have both started making noises, now I've got a Walbro and its doing fine
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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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the bosch ones make a humming noise which is normal! i ran 003 and 023's and they were fine! i have uprated pumps and fiting kits for sale if ur interested..
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by adamski frst
the bosch ones make a humming noise which is normal! i ran 003 and 023's and they were fine! i have uprated pumps and fiting kits for sale if ur interested..
Yes, but "uneven" noises and fuelcuts suggests that its not normal... When tuners like mr. Shead above has tested, and the cheap pump flows better, why spend more money on one that doesnt work as well?
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you want at least 12 volts, if you are only getting 12 at the pump, you are already dropping nearly 4 volts from the battery. if you are just about to change your pump i'd rewire it using the original pump wiring as the signal to switch on your new fuel pump relay., that is run direct from the battery in heavygauge wire.
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JHS
Yes, but "uneven" noises and fuelcuts suggests that its not normal... When tuners like mr. Shead above has tested, and the cheap pump flows better, why spend more money on one that doesnt work as well?
no disrespect but seen as he mapped mine he had no bad word to say about mine??
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by adamski frst
no disrespect but seen as he mapped mine he had no bad word to say about mine??
Im not saying they are crap, mine might have been a unlucky one. Im trying to say that the Walbro does the job just as well. Which he obviously has proved
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
I spent a day testing all 3 of those pumps and the walbro out flowed the other 2, You must have had a problem with it or power supply, I all my years or using the walbro I have only had 1 fail.

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did it supply the pressure also.

i had the car mapped by Karl and it was fine when fitted with the Bosch.
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
did it supply the pressure also.

i had the car mapped by Karl and it was fine when fitted with the Bosch.
They are fine till around 5.5bar fuel pressure then it struggles, it outflowed both bosch in my testing at that pressure also.

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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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I have recently changed my pump to a Bosch 003 to run 330BHP as this keeps it as an intank system.

Was told that the standard unit could easily handle 1 bar of boost, so if your only running standard power just stick with standard, they are still available from fords with the sender unit if you feel you need a new one and will be a straight swap.
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Originally Posted by Dave Henshall
you want at least 12 volts, if you are only getting 12 at the pump, you are already dropping nearly 4 volts from the battery. if you are just about to change your pump i'd rewire it using the original pump wiring as the signal to switch on your new fuel pump relay., that is run direct from the battery in heavygauge wire.
I should of said, you'll only see 12v with the pump out as the engine won't be running. If you can test insitue with the engine running your correct you'd want to see 14.4 v.
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 12:48 PM
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Ok!

I want to know for 1,1 bar. + overboost.

For this pressure , the Walbro is good?

Thank you for the answers!
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Berta
Ok!

I want to know for 1,1 bar. + overboost.

For this pressure , the Walbro is good?

Thank you for the answers!
YES.
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 11:42 AM
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I have an 044 in the tank on mine as i found it out performs 003 and 023. It was just a b***h to get in the tank with a filter on as its meant to be an external pump.
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