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Old Sep 4, 2008 | 11:04 PM
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Default Saph rear strut brace - needed or not?

Do saphs benefit much from a rear brace? If so are the ones you can get from demon theives any good or does it need a more substantial welded in one to get any benefit?

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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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It doesn't need welding in, but defo benefits from being triangualted to the floor as well, much more so when coilovers are used.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 01:00 PM
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Cheers. Is it worth fitting an off shelf one like this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-RS-COSWOR...d=p3286.c0.m14
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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Looks OK, and should reduce flexing, although no where near as important as a front one.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 04:05 PM
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more important on the 3 door as the saph has a huge bit of metal under the parcel shelf doing this job

all you need to do is tie the strut tops to the sides ala escos front stru turrets if you want to keep the boot space or triangulate it to the fllor section where the tow bar bolt holes are located in the shell
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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Got the same one as per the ebay-link posted there, really good one, fair price, well happy with it.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
more important on the 3 door as the saph has a huge bit of metal under the parcel shelf doing this job
You really, really, REALLY havent got a fucking clue have you Dojj.......

Read it back to yourself and ask yourself if the bit of metal under the parcel shelf actually does anything to remotely stop shell flex....

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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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it'll make it a lot stiffer than the 3 door which has a bit bit of air to help stop the shell flexing

and seeing as the strut tops will flex more if the shell flexes, the bit bit of metal stopping the shell from flexing in the saph will mean these will flex less as well
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
it'll make it a lot stiffer than the 3 door which has a bit bit of air to help stop the shell flexing

and seeing as the strut tops will flex more if the shell flexes, the bit bit of metal stopping the shell from flexing in the saph will mean these will flex less as well
think about it again dojj.....then think how a SEPERATE piece of metal bonded to cardboard/fabric shelf, thats sits in plastic notches and rests in plastic trim pieces with 10mm gaps either side could actually help shell flex in the slightest.

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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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It doesn't need welding in, but defo benefits from being triangualted to the floor as well, much more so when coilovers are used.
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does anyone sells these or do you have to make your own?

anybody any pictures of these?

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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 06:35 PM
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I made me own, took a morning and about Ł15 worth of metal, very easy to do, you can actually feel the difference in hard cornering.
If I welded any of it in it would be the bottom part, the floor section, but the straight across bar bit is just compressive loads so not needed to be welded, so long as securely bolted.
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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any pictures ?
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SillyFezzaMk1
think about it again dojj.....then think how a SEPERATE piece of metal bonded to cardboard/fabric shelf, thats sits in plastic notches and rests in plastic trim pieces with 10mm gaps either side could actually help shell flex in the slightest.

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the shelf sits on the metal bit of the shell thats welded 2 to the car
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Originally Posted by dojj
the shelf sits on the metal bit of the shell thats welded 2 to the car
ok dojj, if you say so....


If you think a saph parcel shelf is structural; however it sits/mounts you must have forgot a few pills or something.

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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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the shelf must do something as both my sapphs shelfs have cracked
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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i fitted one to my saph and 3-door only really notice diffrence in the 3-door as dojj says above saph shell is stiffer due to parsel shelf part
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 07:26 PM
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Mines not triangulated (sounds like good sense though) and I have a rear cage section. I found the bar easy to fit and keep tidy looking by carefully cutting some old spare plastic turret tops (covers).

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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 11:09 PM
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adrenaline race and performance do the traingulated 1
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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ive got both front and rear strut braces to fit in my sapp so should be all good
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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Do u guys recomend fiting these front and back as i have none on my car what are the benefits front and rear
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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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at the front it stops the strut tops from flexing too much as you go round corners as it ties them together

on the rear the shell doens't flex as much in the saphs as you've got a lot more metal there to prevent the shell from flexing, as opposed to the 3 doors which have a big open space

the tops of the turrets can still flex though, but they won't do so as much as the fronts
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