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Old May 23, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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im currently on konis all round, cobra springs -25mm, fully polybushed on front, front strut brace, rear strut brace, good year f1's

whats best for fast road use? cheers
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Old May 23, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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go for the road spec Ahmed springs as they are by far the best springs with the Konis
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Old May 23, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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and the 6 degree rear beam
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Old May 23, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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Deffo go for the Ahmed Springs Mate..
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I had ahmed for three weeks on a my cossie(sapph), then put on my AVO coilovers, no bloody competition, ahmed are good/excellent but they are NOT that good compared with coilovers, but obviously budget comes into it.
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Go whit http://www.sellholm.se/ the best u can get.No cheap but its hard to find any better.
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im happy to buy coilovers, i ideally did want to go coilovers for a few reasons,

main one being clearence from spring seat to tyre on the front,

paul, to 6 degree rear beams make that good of difference? are they from adrenalime
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Old May 24, 2008 | 01:35 PM
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Just get coilovers bud!
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Old May 24, 2008 | 01:46 PM
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Didn't mike r do a write up somewhere,showing what camber settings etc for fast road use ?
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Old May 24, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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I think Mike now does black art coilover insted of the old Leda ring spec stuff he use to do.

Que mike with prices are on my website

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Neil, as you said - he now does the black art coilovers - which is what ive got on mine.

they are made and designed by the guy that used to make the Leda coilovers to mikes spec, exactly the same but with high speed valving - so in some ways they are a slightly improved version of the Leda's - and cost about £1200.

definatly get a 6 degree beam, as your probably aware theres several options, Danny does different levels of beam ranging from £850 ish up to £1400 ish

or theres the Ahmed rear beam which is £1000.

all will be a great improvement over the standard setup, but will depend on your budget and how far you want to go with it all.

adjustable front TCA's would help the situation aswell.

HTH

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Old May 24, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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cheers all

kelv that does help, cheers, im not sure on what i was goin to spend, was thinking gaz coilovers at 500 notes and some adjc tca's, maybe in the for see able future i may have a week where i blast the bank account and order the lot
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Andy i run GAZ coilover and they were a improvement over my old Koni set up, i got them from cosymad on here , he specs them with different spring rates to nomal. Im also running adjustable TCA, thinking about compression struts and have an adjustable back beam ready to go on soon.
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Old May 24, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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Fast Road Use? With your License?
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Old May 24, 2008 | 05:35 PM
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hi mate i deff would go for the rear beam and a set of coilovers brill set up. i have a set of avo coilovers made to the old leda spec sorted through mike r with 1000 miles on them i no longer need cus of change of suspension spec if ur interested pm me for my mobile number.
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Steven, id guess that yours are the Avo Monotubes then!?

they are also very good and definatly worth the money.
Andy, could be a bargain there for you to grab!!

Neil, Chris changes the specs of the rear springs as they are far to harsh for road use the way Gaz spec them. id guess that instead of the 325F and 225R, your probably running arond 325F and 170R.
i had those on my old setup and found it faultless on track use with 225R but for road use i changed my rears to 190, but that was my car fully stripped aswell.
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Neil - i must ask mate, why are you thinking of going for compression struts?

are you fitting any form of anti rollbar in its place to compensate, or going for the GRP a style which has its own crossmember and then drop links onto the TCA's?

personally i wouldnt sacrifice my Anti Rollbar for compression struts!
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Old May 24, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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Steven, id guess that yours are the Avo Monotubes then!?

they are also very good and definatly worth the money.
Andy, could be a bargain there for you to grab!!

Neil, Chris changes the specs of the rear springs as they are far to harsh for road use the way Gaz spec them. id guess that instead of the 325F and 225R, your probably running arond 325F and 170R.
i had those on my old setup and found it faultless on track use with 225R but for road use i changed my rears to 190, but that was my car fully stripped aswell.
yes mate they r the monotubes that mike had spec up by avo think there is only 3 or 4 sets the same.
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got some bilstein magnesium coil overs with tarmac front and gravel rear springs if you want some, only selling them because i want to go buffty lol
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Old May 24, 2008 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunccoss
got some bilstein magnesium coil overs with tarmac front and gravel rear springs if you want some, only selling them because i want to go buffty lol

thats what you want Andy, not the cheap copies.
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Old May 25, 2008 | 12:22 PM
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dunc, how does it handle on that set up? clearance ok for back wheel? pm me a price please

steven mc, please pm me a price too
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Old May 25, 2008 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AJC
dunc, how does it handle on that set up? clearance ok for back wheel? pm me a price please

steven mc, please pm me a price too
dont know what they are worth ? all i know is that cost alot when new and are like hens teeth to get hold off
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dunc, how does it handle on that set up? clearance ok for back wheel? pm me a price please

steven mc, please pm me a price too

pm sent mate
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Mag Billys on mine m8 with adjustable tcas and arb, No clearance problems and it handles spot on
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mine are in good condition infact the rears havent been used since they got rebuilt, the springs could do with a refurb or spray but please remember i am a bufty lol and unless it 100% mint i dont call things very good condition
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bought some momotubes, paid for them yesterday
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Did you buy Steven's?
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Originally Posted by tabetha
I had ahmed for three weeks on a my cossie(sapph), then put on my AVO coilovers, no bloody competition, ahmed are good/excellent but they are NOT that good compared with coilovers, but obviously budget comes into it.
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I'm guessing that you bought these second hand and were "told" they were Ahmed springs, when in fact they were just some cheap aftermarket ones, as the Ahmed springs are a LOT stiffer than normal springs.

Can you tell me where you bought them from and what numbers were stamped on the "pigtails"?

Andy,
I missed this earlier .

Seriously, the 6° rear end transforms the handling. In fact I would have suggested that this is more important than the fitting of coilovers (the handling would have been transformed with this and just some good quality dampers and springs). I did a big write up on suspension for Fast Ford explaining why - perhaps you have this somewhere and can have a read?

Be careful about buying the base Adrenaline version, as this is not adjustable for toe and has caught a few out who have expected it to be. The £1k Ahmed one is adjustable for both toe and camber.
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Originally Posted by Kelv
Did you buy Steven's?
He did
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Who can supply the Ahmed rear beam ? I doubt he sells direct.
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I think Mike R.
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Originally Posted by ECOS95
Who can supply the Ahmed rear beam ? I doubt he sells direct.

he does still 1k though
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Originally Posted by ECOS95
Who can supply the Ahmed rear beam ? I doubt he sells direct.
He does..
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Originally Posted by Dunccoss
got some bilstein magnesium coil overs with tarmac front and gravel rear springs if you want some, only selling them because i want to go buffty lol
Mike has said to me in the past these are FAR to hard for road use.
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Old May 30, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan
Mike has said to me in the past these are FAR to hard for road use.
they are hard but the main problem is if you use the tarmac spec springs on the rear as they make the car bounce about i have got gravel spec on the rear, or you could put what ever spec springs on the front and back
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Originally Posted by Dunccoss
they are hard but the main problem is if you use the tarmac spec springs on the rear as they make the car bounce about i have got gravel spec on the rear, or you could put what ever spec springs on the front and back
Off topic but you've got a PM mate.
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Cheers I'll look into it.
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