Chatter with a dump valve fitted-is it possible ?
May 15, 2008 | 09:15 PM
Thread Starter
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 25,439
Likes: 19
From: Shutting down jap crap
Chatter with a dump valve fitted-is it possible ?
Fitted a dump valve to my saph earlier on and get chatter and woosh from the dump valve ? Thought i read somewhere that you cant get both ??
May 15, 2008 | 09:16 PM
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 10,754
Likes: 2
From: Devon/Blackpool
you can if your dv has a strong spring, it will stay closed at low boost and chatter...
May 15, 2008 | 09:17 PM
Advanced PassionFord User
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,292
Likes: 3
From: yorkshire
..i want chatter!!!
May 15, 2008 | 09:17 PM
Thread Starter
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 25,439
Likes: 19
From: Shutting down jap crap
Ah right,so for more tish do i fit an airbox ?
May 15, 2008 | 09:18 PM
Advanced PassionFord User
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 2,430
Likes: 0
From: west mids
aint ichatter bad for your turbo? sure i heard that somewhere
May 15, 2008 | 09:24 PM
Advanced PassionFord User
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,292
Likes: 3
From: yorkshire
Quote:
Originally Posted by
focuschivvy
aint ichatter bad for your turbo? sure i heard that somewhere
me too..ideally i want chatter but not if its gona fook my turbo,hopefuly the rs gurus should let us know soon
May 15, 2008 | 09:24 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 4,117
Likes: 0
From: Lincoln & Scunny
Quote:
Originally Posted by
KSA-Cossie
Fitted a dump valve to my saph earlier on and get chatter and woosh from the dump valve ? Thought i read somewhere that you cant get both ??
We get dump and chatter on our FRST
Last edited by GTechR; May 15, 2008 at 09:30 PM .
May 15, 2008 | 09:28 PM
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,703
Likes: 2
From: Derby
Trouble is people confuse 'chatter' as found on external waste gates with compressor surge or stall as found in this case. You'll get both if the dump valve either cant keep up with the amount of boost thats trying to escape thru it or as said previously, if the spring is quite hard. In theory, compressor stalling is very bad and on high boost cars it can shatter an impellor shaft...altho no doubt many people on here will now say they've done it since their old man first started working down the pit and it aint blown yet blah blah lol
May 15, 2008 | 09:28 PM
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 10,754
Likes: 2
From: Devon/Blackpool
for more tish,fit a dv with a weaker spring, that opens to vent the boost as soon as you lift off....
a stronger spring will keep the dv closed for a bit when you lift off, and you get chatter as the air comes back through the air filter
May 15, 2008 | 09:28 PM
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 10,807
Likes: 8
From: .
The GGR type DV's give both
Only fooks it on a huge turbo, not T34 size AFAIAA
May 15, 2008 | 09:31 PM
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 10,754
Likes: 2
From: Devon/Blackpool
imo chatter is bad....sending compressed air the wrong way through your turbo compressor cant be a good thing ...
May 15, 2008 | 09:32 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 4,117
Likes: 0
From: Lincoln & Scunny
Quote:
Originally Posted by
JTECHSAFF
imo chatter is bad....sending compressed air the wrong way through your turbo compressor cant be a good thing ...
Sounds ace though dunnit
May 15, 2008 | 09:32 PM
Advanced PassionFord User
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,292
Likes: 3
From: yorkshire
Quote:
Originally Posted by
JTECHSAFF
for more tish,fit a dv with a weaker spring, that opens to vent the boost as soon as you lift off....
a stronger spring will keep the dv closed for a bit when you lift off, and you get chatter as the air comes back through the air filter
which dumpy would you recomend for more chatter along with the tish?
May 15, 2008 | 09:33 PM
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 10,807
Likes: 8
From: .
In theory no but surely it depends on application really?
Do Stu/Karl recommend a DV on a T34 Cossie?
May 15, 2008 | 09:34 PM
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 10,807
Likes: 8
From: .
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Moonstone Mo
which dumpy would you recomend for more chatter along with the tish?
As above
May 15, 2008 | 09:34 PM
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 10,754
Likes: 2
From: Devon/Blackpool
i run the twin piston bailey one, and have plenty of both..infact it sounds fooking hardcore
the single piston ones just tish....
May 15, 2008 | 09:36 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 4,391
Likes: 1
From: Leicester LE3
TEV has both on a GGR DV, good units but a strong spring and decent strong diaphragm will cause this. A week spring and soft diaphragm will dump easier but ultimately more likely to leak.
May 15, 2008 | 09:37 PM
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 10,754
Likes: 2
From: Devon/Blackpool
thats why i like the bailey piston type...no diaphragms
May 15, 2008 | 09:38 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 4,391
Likes: 1
From: Leicester LE3
Quote:
Originally Posted by
James90RS
The GGR type DV's give both
Only fooks it on a huge turbo, not T34 size AFAIAA
I have a GGR item for sale £100
May 15, 2008 | 09:39 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 4,391
Likes: 1
From: Leicester LE3
Quote:
Originally Posted by
JTECHSAFF
thats why i like the bailey piston type...no diaphragms
Not sen one myself, what inside one of hese then, 2x pistons but how is it layed out inside, cheers
May 15, 2008 | 10:51 PM
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,768
Likes: 0
My mates Evo 6 chatters and dumps on the HKS SSVQ. Its got different load springs though to get different characteristics.
May 15, 2008 | 11:43 PM
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,998
Likes: 0
From: Cambs UK
i have a collins twin piston DV on a zetec turbo and it has some chatter, sounds pretty good.
May 16, 2008 | 01:49 AM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 479
Likes: 0
From: St Annes, Lancs
i run a t34/35 and no dump valve and though i agree with the above that in theory sending air in the oppisite direction it was designed to go stu @ msd reliably informed me that on the above said turbo no harm will come to it.
May 16, 2008 | 01:55 AM
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 50,873
Likes: 1
From: ...
I run no dumpvalve, Took it off... Sounds awesome on chatter... Fuck the turbo life, Live for the moment
Quick video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW2FvwYfqKA
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
abz474
Cars for Sale
9
Nov 1, 2015 06:53 PM
DAZZER
Ford Escort RS Turbo
5
Sep 30, 2015 08:43 PM
fordrallycar
Ford RS Cosworth Parts for Sale
0
Sep 30, 2015 07:57 PM
RS-Rikki
Ford Escort RS Turbo
4
Sep 21, 2015 07:27 AM
rs_jim
Ford Escort RS Turbo
1
Sep 19, 2015 08:41 PM