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Old May 14, 2008 | 08:51 PM
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as above and is it safe to use on say my 03 plate transit ?, as its £1.23 p'l here for diesel and just over £1 for bio diesel at a local farm
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Old May 14, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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what engine have you got in your transit mate?
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what engine have you got in your transit mate?

2ltr turbo, its a t280 transit
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Old May 14, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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You need to check with your dealer as it can fook the fuel pump which can cost £500 upwards
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Bio is only normally 5% bio, as if too much bio as it has such a wonderful cleaning action can indeed block things up, I used it in my old escort diesel, and it defo went better.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 06:48 AM
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being a biodiesel engineer, thought i'd give you my opinion on the topic



first check with ford as to what level of bio they warrenty, some only do up to 5% (which can be found in normal fuel nowadays) some cover up to 30% and a small majority up to 100%

second, check the source of the fuel, what feedstock it comes from, pure grade RME (rapeseed) is much better than say bio made from recycled vegetable oil, and make sure it conforms to EN14214

confirm what they mean by biodiesel, as tabetha says, it could be only 5% but PROPER biodiesel is 100% organic and contains no diesel

to reinforce what tabetha says there are these main drawbacks with biodiesel:

1) it is highly solvent so will clean tanks, lines, and pumps. so expect to need to change the fuel filters
2) poor spec fuel can have bad cold flow properties, cause poor starting, and gel up tanks in winter
3) there is a slight power loss between normal diesel and 100% biodiesel
3)
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Originally Posted by gingeRS
being a biodiesel engineer, thought i'd give you my opinion on the topic



first check with ford as to what level of bio they warrenty, some only do up to 5% (which can be found in normal fuel nowadays) some cover up to 30% and a small majority up to 100%

second, check the source of the fuel, what feedstock it comes from, pure grade RME (rapeseed) is much better than say bio made from recycled vegetable oil, and make sure it conforms to EN14214

confirm what they mean by biodiesel, as tabetha says, it could be only 5% but PROPER biodiesel is 100% organic and contains no diesel

to reinforce what tabetha says there are these main drawbacks with biodiesel:

1) it is highly solvent so will clean tanks, lines, and pumps. so expect to need to change the fuel filters
2) poor spec fuel can have bad cold flow properties, cause poor starting, and gel up tanks in winter
3) there is a slight power loss between normal diesel and 100% biodiesel
3)
i think i'll just stick to normal pump diesel to be on the safe side then, if it was a shitty old run around escort i'd use bio but i rely to much on the tranny for work, cheers for the input though people.
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Originally Posted by coswurv
i think i'll just stick to normal pump diesel to be on the safe side then, if it was a shitty old run around escort i'd use bio but i rely to much on the tranny for work, cheers for the input though people.
if you are doing hundreds of miles a week, it may save you a few quid though

dont take this as scare mongering, but find out about the source of the bio first and make a decision from there

if it costs 20p less per litre, then on a 80 litre tank you would save £16 everytime you fill up

theres plenty of forums where people share their experiences with bio and different vehicles

just google it
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Did wonders in me old agricultural escort 1.8 non turbo, defo quicker and a lot smoother.
I do know there is a growing disquiet among diesel owners about broken down diesels that have become BLOCKED, due to BACTERIA in the underground storage tanks, this mixes with certain bio's depending on what type of bio they are and forms into LUMPS that go on to block any pipe etc they contact.
This is essentially because the underground tanks are not clean, so there may be some urgent action, on petrol/diesel forecourts soon!!
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Default mondeo on biodiesel

Hi got 56 plate mondeo will it ok on biodiesel?
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Originally Posted by gingeRS
being a biodiesel engineer, thought i'd give you my opinion on the topic



first check with ford as to what level of bio they warrenty, some only do up to 5% (which can be found in normal fuel nowadays) some cover up to 30% and a small majority up to 100%

second, check the source of the fuel, what feedstock it comes from, pure grade RME (rapeseed) is much better than say bio made from recycled vegetable oil, and make sure it conforms to EN14214

confirm what they mean by biodiesel, as tabetha says, it could be only 5% but PROPER biodiesel is 100% organic and contains no diesel

to reinforce what tabetha says there are these main drawbacks with biodiesel:

1) it is highly solvent so will clean tanks, lines, and pumps. so expect to need to change the fuel filters
2) poor spec fuel can have bad cold flow properties, cause poor starting, and gel up tanks in winter
3) there is a slight power loss between normal diesel and 100% biodiesel
3)
who you work for mate out of interest
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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we used bio in our council vans and had to change the seals in the inj pumps de to the bio breaking down the compound the seal was made of. Partner vans,Daf trucks...
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i know people who swear by it and people who swear at it, i have used it on astra cdti's and dti's and they have been ok.

mate i know who owns a petrol station sells it for about the same.
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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Tried bio diesel my old tranny Di, it went ok but on new rapeseed oil (50/50 mix)i get more MPG and it runs soo much smoother you'd think it was a new engine (not a new Di i meen it sounds like a modern diesel IE quiet)
I take it oil looses calorific value after it's used? i put the extra power and MPG down to new oil have a higher calorific value than straigh diesel or reclaimed ? (one for gingeRS ) ?
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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If you are happy to risk a pump costing a grand and injectors at about half that then go for bio in a new common rail diesel car.

If not dont!

Simple really
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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I use new veg/rapeseed oil in two of my motors, and it works a treat, eng runs smoother, slightly better performance etc & the main thing its cheaper than diesel!!!
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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I wouldnt advise running it in newer common rail diesels engines though unless u have checked with the car manufaturer 1st..

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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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Where do you get it from?
I've never seen it at any forecourt.

Sounds like LPG to me, great if you can find anyone selling it.
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