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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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Hi i have a 1992 k reg saff 4x4 just wondering should it have had a lambda sensor from new?There's not one in it now but could that be down to having a mongoose exhaust fitted and no boos included in the downpipe? can't find any straggling wires for a sensor.
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 04:31 PM
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i think a K reg one shoud!but not 100% sure is yours a green top lump?
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 05:06 PM
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If the ecu needed(and had) one and now it didn't have it, it would run like a bag of poo, so if running ok I would say no.
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by timster
Hi i have a 1992 k reg saff 4x4 just wondering should it have had a lambda sensor from new?There's not one in it now but could that be down to having a mongoose exhaust fitted and no boos included in the downpipe? can't find any straggling wires for a sensor.

If its a green top engine it would of had the lambda sensor mounted in the turbo exhaust housing as standard from the factory.
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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My k reg has one fitted in the turbo as richie said.
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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It is a green top but wondering because it was chipped when i had it along with a mongoose exhaust whether somebody has done away with the lambda sensor as its chipped anyway kinda thing
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tabetha
If the ecu needed(and had) one and now it didn't have it, it would run like a bag of poo, so if running ok I would say no.
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What? mine is a green top and no longer has a lambda sensor and runs fine thank you very much
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by timster
It is a green top but wondering because it was chipped when i had it along with a mongoose exhaust whether somebody has done away with the lambda sensor as its chipped anyway kinda thing
there is your answer, obviously the chip used was probably not capable of utilising the lambda sensor so it must have been binned.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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What? mine is a green top and no longer has a lambda sensor and runs fine thank you very much
but according to your sig yours has been live mapped lol, my guess is tabetha is refering to if the car still had the origional software, however even if it did and the lambda was missing i doubt it would make a massive difference to the feel of the car, possibly to the fuel consumption and the cats if they where still there.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 05:41 PM
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Just got to find the wires for it now then,can anyone tell me or show me what they should look like?
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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black triangle plug,red core...around the brake pump assy/bulkhead area .
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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Cheers i'll have a gander now
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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nope can't find it
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Originally Posted by tabetha
If the ecu needed(and had) one and now it didn't have it, it would run like a bag of poo, so if running ok I would say no.
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please stop giving out wrong info
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Originally Posted by timster
nope can't find it

check all the way along the bulkhead, it comes from the engine loom, over through the bulkhead under the abs unit, you should also have a purge valve by the power brake unit, connected to the carbon canister under the o/s wing.... via a vaccum hose

maybe, your car has had an older loom fitted,which didnt have a lambda....take the ecu plug off and make sure pins 1 and 2 are present and wired up.... one of these is lambda signal,cant remember which,,,,1 iirc








you can never assume a green top should use a lambda sensor, most tuners dont utilise closed loop,so its not needed when chipped....just like older L8 4x4s...

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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
check all the way along the bulkhead, it comes from the engine loom, over through the bulkhead under the abs unit, you should also have a purge valve by the power brake unit, connected to the carbon canister under the o/s wing.... via a vaccum hose

maybe, your car has had an older loom fitted,which didnt have a lambda....take the ecu plug off and make sure pins 1 and 2 are present and wired up.... one of these is lambda signal,cant remember which,,,,1 iirc







you can never assume a green top should use a lambda sensor, most tuners dont utilise closed loop,so its not needed when chipped....just like older L8 4x4s...

I can see some kind of valve down there,I'll have another look tomorrow gone dark now cheers jtechsaff will let you know
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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if the purge vallve is there and is plugged in, you have a green top loom,and should be able to find your lambda plug somewhere....

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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 06:31 AM
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silky16v,
If you read the thread as I did it sounded like the question was asking if it should have a lambda and if someone had removed it purely because they had fitted a different exhaust, in which case I stand by my answer.
I am sorry I can't be as perfect as you, but I am too busy paying my bills.
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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it doesnt fit in the exhaust...its in the ex housing.....
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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Found it dangling down the chassis rail



there should be somewhere on the exhaust housing for the lambda sensor to screw into yeah?

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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 04:37 PM
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Sensor goes into one of these?

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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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yes and yes.....

the plug does have a bit of red in it lol...

the hole with the bolt in it is the one you want...

i do have a year old lambda sensor to fit,if you want to buy it...they are a smaller thread to normal ones.....it just hasnt got a plug on it...can buy 3 pin plugs easy....pm me if you want it

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