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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 11:33 PM
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Ive heard loads of things about stuff like biodiesel, vegetable oil, blah blah

I have a Pug 306 XLDT N reg, is there anything I can consider to save me any cash in my 1,500miles driving each week?

Dont mind paying tax on stuff if its gonna save me a few dollars

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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 11:39 PM
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I think, possibly, that Tabetha mentioned some people run heating oil (Kerosene maybe?) - costing even less than Veg oil.....

Not sure on that, but deffo worth investigation me thinks.

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I think, possibly, that Tabetha mentioned some people run heating oil (Kerosene maybe?) - costing even less than Veg oil.....

Not sure on that, but deffo worth investigation me thinks.

Si

Mate done this in his fiesta for 30k and didnt service it once

Mix 1litre of normal engine oil to 25 of kerosene/parrafin
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 11:51 PM
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i used to do this on a r reg mondeo 1.8td during winter 3 parts diesel 1 part veg oil and in summer it was 50/50 noticed slightly less speed but no problems other than that. And according to the government unless you use over 2500litres of veg oil a year you dont need to declare it.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 11:58 PM
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I think, possibly, that Tabetha mentioned some people run heating oil (Kerosene maybe?) - costing even less than Veg oil.....

Not sure on that, but deffo worth investigation me thinks.

Si

Mate done this in his fiesta for 30k and didnt service it once

Mix 1litre of normal engine oil to 25 of kerosene/parrafin
The normal engine oil you mention - as in some 10w/40 Castrol or whatever you normally use? Just that and some Kerro and it works?

That's gotta be cheap - like 40p ish a litre at the mo IIRC.

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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 12:05 AM
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I think, possibly, that Tabetha mentioned some people run heating oil (Kerosene maybe?) - costing even less than Veg oil.....

Not sure on that, but deffo worth investigation me thinks.

Si

Mate done this in his fiesta for 30k and didnt service it once

Mix 1litre of normal engine oil to 25 of kerosene/parrafin
The normal engine oil you mention - as in some 10w/40 Castrol or whatever you normally use? Just that and some Kerro and it works?

That's gotta be cheap - like 40p ish a litre at the mo IIRC.

Na mate dont use the castrol - asda 20/50 is the kiddie at around £4 for 5ltrs



Like i said he did fook all to it for 30k and it ran sweet as a nut.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 01:26 AM
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know a bloke whos runnig pure asda smartprice vegetable oil in his rover 620 turbo diesel. says it goes better
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where can you buy kerosene from then? Veg oil is expensive, wholesale it's 75p a litre
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=014

these seem a nice bit of kit if you have a bit of spare time

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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 06:35 AM
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im running 60/40 vegoil to diesel just now in a mk2 golf gtd and its fine done about 6000 miles since i got it with no issues other than it smelling like a chip pan!

interested in the kerosen business though
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 06:43 AM
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tescos pura veg oil is 56p a litre i was running my smiley transit on 100% veg oil.

but because its winter i had problems starting in the morning so now i run it 50/50.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 07:15 AM
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all these alternatives are great in older cars but dont put it in newer motors; your asking for trouble
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 07:20 AM
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THere's a place down the road selling Biodiesel for 95p/litre. Not much of a saving but better than 108p/litre on the forecourts
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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i did 27k in my mondeo on veg and diesel mix with no problems until the bottom end let go but i think that was because it was on its last legs anyway and not due to bio-mix.

Veg oil can be got for free if you know who to ask just need to do a bit more filtering
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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Go LPG

My Audi runs on LPG and it is awesome.....

I get billed monthly...

119litres of LPG cost me £42

119litres of Diesel is about £127

I get 300 mile to £19 of LPG

She looks good, goes ok for a 1.8 and owes me next to fuck all.

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what the crack with this keroseen stuff then?

what do you do?

what do you mix it with?

link to more info?
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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you could mix paraffin and diesel

95% paraffin and 5% diesel

Norwegians army cars runs on that
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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Mix heating oil with engine oil???

WHY?

ENgine oil doesn't burn well - hence blue smoke with knacked engines!!

You'll find it blocks the injectors and combustion chambers up (worse on a indirect diesel - like the old Transit engine (2.5 york)) and will wreck the pump as its miles to thick!

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Tiff why do you have 2 sensible cars???
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 02:35 PM
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have you tried PETROL!!

seriously, you could get a shopping model car that does 60mpg if you know what to look for
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Tiff why do you have 2 sensible cars???
Because i am old now

I am looking for an un-sensible car at the moment
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexF
Mix heating oil with engine oil???

WHY?

ENgine oil doesn't burn well - hence blue smoke with knacked engines!!

You'll find it blocks the injectors and combustion chambers up (worse on a indirect diesel - like the old Transit engine (2.5 york)) and will wreck the pump as its miles to thick!

Alex
Because kerosene is slightly more viscous than diesel (28 sec instead of 32 if my memory serves right) so the engine oil brings it back up to the right viscosity.

Kerosene is also less lubricating than diesel so the added engine oil aids lubrication of the pump.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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I'm running 50/50 Veg Oil in a Rover 420SD at the moment. Change the Fuel Filter after about 1000 miles as the Veggie will clean all the system out etc so the filter will be bunged up and it should run fine after that. I've done 3000 in the Rover on Veggie and i've ran 2 Mondeo TD's on it previously no problems
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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dont advice running oil with lucas pumps, if your bosh you can run reasonable high mixs, in summer i was running 100 percent oil straight from tescos but its a bit dearer now, in winter id put 50 litres of oil in and a tenners worth of diesel.

i have run transits vw tdis our merc g wagon runs on straight oil too. and its totally legal not commiting any offence if you mix up less than 2500 litres per year, no tax needed to be paid
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