been told today by friend that lorries and certain vans etc are being charged to use the m25 daily , this bloddy goverment aint happy with robbing us on tax with petrol, congestion charges etc, they are a fucking waste of oxygen and need a kick in the bollox

 

i live in biggin hill and there are loads of signs saying "you are now entering a low emission sone" stupid bastards!!!!

 

just another way for goverment to rob us of our hard earned money

 

otherhalf outted her horse box last year due to this, the conversion was a few k, there quite a few small equestrian centres that will lose out, from people not coming from outside the m25 !

government cunts!

 

its totally killed the recovery industry all the big boys are kinda ok but the normal blokes trying to ern an honest living are finished as new trucks needed if engine isnt compliant

 

so hows it work? if emissions are below x amount you dont pay and if they are above you get crucified?

 

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/lez/default.aspx

 

The Low Emission Zone (LEZ) will affect older, diesel-engined lorries, buses, coaches, minibuses and large vans (exceeding 1.205 tonnes unladen weight).

It will also affect other specialist vehicles that are derived from lorries and vans, including motorised horse boxes, breakdown and recovery vehicles, refuse collection vehicles, gritters, sweepers, concrete mixers, tippers, removals lorries, fire appliances, motor caravans, ambulances and large hearses (over 2.5 tonnes).

There will be a phased introduction of the LEZ from 4 February 2008 through to January 2012. Different vehicles will be affected over time and increasingly tougher emissions standards will apply.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/lez/vehicles/2535.aspx

For UK registered vehicles: if the vehicle was manufactured on or after the 1st of October 2006, no further action is required. If the vehicle was manufactured before the 1st of October 2006 then it may be affected by the Low Emission Zone (LEZ).

 

first i heard about this


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new company truck then

 

Thats only within the zone tho , the M25 and any other major arteries which "touch " that zone are NOT affected by this change , i checked this the other day when i bought a truck !

 

 

How long will it be before the government charge us for the amount of farts we do? Methane measuring equipment will be set up in our homes or directly to our arseholes and we will be charged per fart or on a volume basis!

On a serious note, this thieving, incompetent, shambles of a goverment is gradually running out of ideas in which to fleece the motorist/van or truck driver. So ideas like the M25 one above are just going to get more widespread.

And current and future transport policy doesnt affect Government Ministers, as they all have limousines to ferry them to their destination, and the majority don't have a drivng licence anyway! And MP's earn os much from their jobs and from outside interests they can afford to pay anyway!

We have to be the most "anti-motor vehicle" country on earth! How long will it be before modified cars are outlawed? Or all vehicles must be less than 5 years old? Don't discount anything with these twats!

 

robbing fuck bags!!!!!!

heres a map of the zone

 

Yeah I've been seeing signs on the M11 when I come to work, saying it's effective from the end of the M11 when it turns into the A406 London Nth Circ.... By the looks of the map it's everything inside the Nth Circ and the South Circ...

 

Thank fuck for that, I've been waiting for Ken to release the new rules.

Looks like there will still be plenty of work for me

 

basicly fuck the lot of them i will be running older recovery trucks running on 50 percent vegetable oil, not registered in anyones name just a ficticious trade name and i will go though there shitty zones most days, change vehicles every couple months, i will save a sodding fortune

fuck em

 

This is exactly what I have been doing. Register the vehicle in a moody name and address (a mailbox is a good one) drive where you like, park where you like and don't pay the congestion charge!!! Easy.
We have to start fighting back. I pay enough tax as it is.
So everybody will now be selling their older diesel vehicles and buying petrol ones LMAO. What a con.
And to top it all off where is the money going?

 

you do have to change over quickly though mate as aftyer a few months it could be flagged up on anpr systems even though you could say "ust bought it yesterday mate"

to be honest i never register anything its normally allways a moody name the wifes car is in her name. to be honest last time i got a ticket was a couple years ago and i last time flashed by a camer a couple years ago so im not intentially going out to get fines, but its that what if thing and the system fucks you so why not fuvk it back

i pay a fortune to tax the vans a fortune to runa nd insure them, a fortune on tax on the income so bollox are they having any more food off my childrens plates sometimes i feel id be better off sat on my ass claiming jobseekers

 

Exactly Lardy. It's the what if it happens scenario.
If you get a parking ticket you don't have to worry and panic like everybody else and saying that I did get a ticket the other week. I was 1 minute and 20 seconds over on a ticket I had purchased in a car park. The warden stuck the ticket to the windscreen, so I stuck it on him. He was a bit stunned.
And the excuse I have just bought it does work. There is always a way of getting out of something.
It will become the case whereby we physically will not earn enough to pay all the bills coming in.

 

i live in croydon and drive a 99 sprinter so im affected by it, it will cost me £25 PER DAY to drive my sprinter to work or even to the end of the road, so im gunna sell it and buy a newer one,
its bolox i could do without having to spend the money but it is a good excuse to make me buy one. 2010 is when the restriction comes in for smaller vans like mine

 

the other knock on effects

for the last 8 months fuck me vans and trucks are cheap now

7.5 tonners are rediculously cheap now

 

buy a new truck
park it up
put the plates on a whole fleet of the older trucks
you still get the fines and parking tickets, but you have effectivly increased your fleet by loads

perfect until you have an accident

 

Does this apply to foreign drivers as well?

 

doubt it they will prob pay them to drive here they way our backward government works

 

If i'm reading that right it only goes outside the M25 once near the A130 junction ish...

Does it state anywhere that where the zone starts? As the zones edge in just a line which touches the M25 every now n again.... IS the edge on the clockwise or anti-clockwise lane on the M25? Seems a bit blurred and missing the point...

 

I could quite well believe that

It'll soon get to the stage where all our wages will go to the Government and we'll all get a weekly living allowance!

 

apparently there is now an international database of all vehicle regestrations

 

thats why u never get parking tickets on cars with foriegn plates

 

Coz it takes too long to find them and make them pay. Lets all buy foreign cars and lorries!!