as above

 

48 bhp approximately

Astonishing, innit

 

Most of em are said to be running ~800bhp.

Roumours are atm that BMW will have a 1000bhp one out for next year. But they are usually full of shit.

 

Hi mate, give us a bell lost your number

 

whos that directed at

 

me mate

 

last time i check the figures (yr or 2 ago) they was about 600bhp unless the newer engines r pushin out more bhp now??

 

Its kinda hard to say how much cus the teams dont actually release the figures. And by the time they are sold on they are detuned anway so no one really knows cept what they say. Wouldn't surpriese me if the bottom end runners are about 650 and the top ends are about 800

 

Sure they were all at about 750bhp????? Got tiny engines now tho (3litre V12's IIRC)

Bring back the days they used to have 1000+bhp 6litre V10 turbo's


(or have I got that the wrong way round? Were they small block turbo's and now big block N/A's????)

 

most are apparently now pushng out towards 900 bhp (according to Brundle at the Chinese F1)- that's an incredible 300 bhp / litre.

the best n/a road car production engines push out about 120 bhp/litre

of course in the turbo days, they were said to have 1500bhp from 1.5 litres in qualifying spec - that's 1000 bhp/litre didn't last long though

 

6litre V10 Turbo?

1.5 litre turbo and 1000+bhp mate

 

its more then 900 bhp (BMW)... guaranteed.. believe me .. i know

not bad for a 2 stroke engine.. (most people dont know this... )

 

explain turbinator

2 stroke?

pnuematic valves i know about

 

explain ... well ..thats easy... here is a picture of me ..

 

Toyota claimin to 1000brake ready for next year

tho jap gp will be interestin for jenson Honda land

 

2stroke?

Turbinator, what job you do there then?

 

Coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

 

its a fookin two stroke!!!

no wonder it gets that much power out, V12 two stroke firing 12 times a rotation and at 19000rpm

 

Phils in love

:gayflag: :gayflag:

 

F1 cars are all V10

http://www.f1technical.net/article4.html

 

Turbinator, do you go to all the races?

 

So does Ima

 

ok, so you do stuff for f1. cool. but how/why are f1 engines 2 stroke?

i know honda have built 2 stroke engines in the past that could rev to 22,000rpm

 

The power increases with development work throughout the season. At the start of 2004 most of the top engines were in the 900 to 940 bhp bracket. By mid summer they were up to 940 to 970. The info is relatively freely available if you know engineers working for the F1 teams but it won't be divulged in writing of course or even over an F1 team phone line which could get someone sacked if it's monitored. Over a few beers in the pub is the best way.

Quite amusing looking at the "guesstimates" earlier in this thread though

 

Steve - lol, maybe it was Indy cars that had V6 6litres then, I don't know lol....

I remember the 1.5litre turbo's now as it goes, what were the engine configs and turbo set ups on them? They were V6 weren't then?

 

wrong again
Indy cars had 2.65 V8 turbos engines (not now though i dont think, think there N/A now)

 

No , 18 hours a day is too much for me..I aint 18 no more
it really not that funny when youre on the inside looking out...

Sure some girls want to give you a blowjob in return for your shirt or something.. but there is simply no time, your glad when you hit the sheets in a hotel without someone extra next to you

Did some Computerstuff there..

only go for occasional checkups when there in the neighborhood
send me a pitcard.. I need to install some hotfixes
they dont object this happens only in Spa, Hockenheim, Nurburgring and Monza

ForeignerRS,

ofcourse there 2 stroke, why waste 2 more strokes on nothing
also allows for much higher revs...

 

so do they use 2 stoke oil then

 

Thats nothing

back in the day I used to get more than that out of my old 2 stroke - bit of porting, take off the restictors, drill out the main jets in the carb, open out the expansion chamber, head down on the tank and bobs your uncle, and that was with only 50cc to play with

 

some bloke from bmw is in top gear thismonth saying that they have around 900+ bhp from their engine but, due to techy limits they won't break the 100 bhp mark
they want to change the engines for 2005 as well
and they also have their own ecu for each cylinder or something so that they can control the mixutre and spark to make the engine as smooth as possible (as found on the new M5 )
but with 200,000,000 caculations per second, they can't even get a PS2 in there, i don't know

 

TWO STROKE My arse

 

so there power to weight ratio isnt much then?

 

the old F1 cars had both 4 cylinder inline and v6 1.5 litre turbo engines (obviosuly not in the same car! )

Found these stats on indycars:

Type:

3.0-liter V8, 32-valve dual-overhead cam (DOHC), Normally aspirated (no turbocharger)
Size:

3.0-liter displacement, 183.6 cubic inches Max. bore diameter 93 millimeters Four camshafts, four valves per cylinder
Weight:

Minimum weight is 280 pounds. Dry weight - no headers, clutch, ECU, spark box or filters
RPM:

10,300 maximum (incorporates a rev limiter)
Power:

Estimated 650 horsepower
Fuel:
Methanol
Injectors:

Electronic
Cost:

$125,000
Models:

 

I dont believe they are 2-strokes, if they were, what would be the point of having pnuematic valves...a 2-stokes reed cage system is basically like the valve setup of a 4-stroke, they have the same purpose, so they would cancel each other out if each one run on the same engine. Also, 2-strokes need to have an expansion section on the pipe to get the right power curves...i have seen a F1 pipe being made by hand and they definitely dont have big fat sections on them, plus there would be no were near enough room to fit them in the car if they did. A 2-stroke also wouldnt be able to produce no where near as much torque as a F1 car does, you would need one hell of a monstrous 2-stroke engine to produce all that torque.

I think im going to call BS on this one until you convince me properly, ie getting up another pic of you in the house or something. Anyone could get a pic and claim they are part of a F1 team.

 

You've seen through his subtle (cough) troll then have you ? No fooling you is there me bucko

I bet you spotted they aren't V12s either.

 

What do you mean? Was he just trying to be a cunny funt lol?

 

I can't see them being 2 strokes either, they burn too much oil, if u ever see an F1 engine burning oil then its about to die in a 18,500rpm explosion. I'm sure the rules would stipulate on 4 stroke. I think our BMW computer boffin is perhaps in the polishing department or something unrelated?

 

the engines for qualifying have a raised revlimit and produce more power, the race engines arnt as quick.

at least thats the way it used to be, i dunno if theyve changed the rules or something.

 

A lot of the really big diesel engines used in ships and earthmovers are actually 2 stroke - bet you didnt know that or particularly cared and you dont see many container ships with big fuck off expansion chambers strapped to the side of them with a micron sticker on

mainly made by Detroit.

 

that was years ago, when they didn't have the "one engine per race weekend" rule
they'd tweak the boost for a flying lap knowing that qualifily was where it was at and if they did blow it up at least they knew where the limits were

and, in a surprising "bet you didn't know that" moment, ferrari supply last years engines to 2 teams and ford supply engines to 2 other teams
the ferrari engines not only make more power, but are also more reliable and cost less as well
yet another reason why jaguar ins't cutting the mustard