Hi all,


I've been thinking about this a lot recently, and watching Big Brother tonight has made me think a lot more about it.

The thing is, I know a few people with huge houses, Some with Ferraris etc, and another of my mates has just landed an £80k a year job with Porsche UK. Basically, without being materialistic, People I know are progressing well and making a lot of money/assets.

So, here's lil ol me, joined the Army from school and as some of you know, I'm now in a job that I adore. The thing is though, I work every day, and a good few nights too. I do 2 days and 2 nights with the Fire Brigade (£20k a year to risk your life!lol ) I have my own Intruder Alarm company which involves me fitting alarms every day I'm not working with the Brigade, but if I can squeeze an evening installation in I will. I also sub contract to Chubb doing "On Call" at weekends, and I have my own Motorsport Safety company, another job I love doing, I try and fit in atleast one day a week doing this too but when I can't get other qualified guys to cover events for me, and I get my cut on top.

Basically, I work on average 100+ hours a week easily. So why am I always skint? We shop as ASDA to get everything as cheap as we can, I don't spend loads on clothes etc and nor does my wife. I only go out once a month and I drive a 55mpg 10 year old Audi an an everyday motor. I have to my name about £80 at the moment, no savings, a small pension and no real big assets.

Yes, my wife doesn't work as she looks after our nipper, and I have a nice home and a Skyline ,which hasn't left the garage for 8 months because I can't afford to run it. But how come some people work 9-5 , 5 days a week and have the lovely £500k house and a few Cayennes outside? Is it because they get an awesome wage, or have rich parents?

So, Where am I going with these ramblings? I can't work any harder, I have ulcers inside my mouth from hard work and I feel totally knackered all the time. I'm starting to get really cross at things a lot now, even little things which if you know me and my personlity, you'd probably not believe as I'm always smiling.My limbs ache and I'm basically just not feeling well.

With all this in mind it's got me thinking, shall I just give it all up and try to get a job in the city, use my hard working background to try and get "The Apprentice" style job? Take some risks, add a bit of bullshit to my CV and go for the £80k jobs you see in the paper?

I spose just through hard work the most you can make is £250 a day, which doesn't go far, but if you take the risks, wear a suit, talk all the jargon and "take lunch" can you do it?

What do you all recon? Failing that there's always the Dole and go on Jeremy Kyle?

Andy

 

you make a LOT more money than me andy mate

 

250 a day?!

You are earning 60k a year

 

Hey, you're in the same situation as me though, you love your job and work there 'cause you think with your heart and not your head Steve.


Without wanting to look like it's showing off, I made a lot of money last year, a hell of a lot, mainly because I worked me bollocks off for it. When my mum did my Tax Returns for me she couldn't believe how much I'd made. So why isn't there a Land Rover Sport outside? My mortgage is £1k a month, which is a lot, but I just want the hours I work and the effort I put in to reflect my families lifestyle.

 

Yep, I think you're right there. I was having a chat with a mate about this a few years back, he works v hard with his own bodyshop, and it was him who said that £250 a day is the most you'll ever make through hard graft. He has enough, so bought a load of property in Bulgaria for peanuts. Now it's worth £900k!

 

Id love to earn money like that, but to be honest,
I have a nice flat, a lovely girlfriend, i love my car, have good friends & have my local. My job isnt great or not great wages, but it pays the bills & im all in all happy with my life. Its not a case of the more your earn, the more you get use to it is it??

 

Me and Lindsay had this discussion not so long ago as our combined income is high, but we are not loaded.....but then when we added up what we have spent over the last couple of years we realised why, Its the small things that add up....

 

Lottery tickets are only £1.

 

but there a LOT more money in trades than there is in being your average office monkey, which the majority of the non tradesperson are.

when i left school they was encouraging people to go to office jobs, but the fact is most crappy office jobs pay 15k and have next to NO chance of progression.

thats one good thing in my job at least, the higher jobs are almost solely from promotion, you literally work to the top, you dont appear there like most jobs, and you dont stay where you are for ever like most jobs.

 

Money does not make you happy.Despite what the rich say.

 

Exactly Lee, I had a nice sum of money saved for my GTR, then I ended up spending it all on setting up my Rescue/Medical company. When I go through the reciepts all these little fivers here and there add up to thousands.

One of my mates has a v simple life, he once bought a copy of Autotrader into work and we all realised it was the first time we'd ever seen him buy something! ever! I'm trying to live the simple life at the mo, try and adopt a "whatever" attitude to things outside of work.

 

thing is - as i do payroll i see what thee high earners in our company get. i wouldnt turn down 50+k per year but you'd shocked how much tax and NI you pay!!

sometimes wonder is it worth all the struggle? wayne rooney for eg - after £33 300 he is paying 40% on everything! nightmare! no wonder becks took it all abroad!!

 

marry a footballer

 

coz life aint fair....

 

fucking well would make me happy!

would be the same stuff as ever, just done bigtime, i fail to see how it can make me anything but stupidly happy.

 

Exactly my thoughts - the more you have, the more fun you can have.

 

yer right!! only downside i can see to having a lotto win is that you'd never be able to trust a woman with your money!! if you already had a long term partner then it'll all be cushty!!

 

If I was loaded, I wouldn't need to work as much, and I could spend more time with the lil man playing. Simple.

 

People like to keep up with the jones and over stretch themselves.

Its very simple - you live to your means or better still live under your means.

If I was you I would stick to one job only, downside your house, sell all the cars you own and buy a shed. I bet your be happier and have more money.

 

You are doing better than most people are, just cause you know a few people doing better i wouldnt let it get to you.

Sounds a nice life to me

 

I think Andy's got a touches of the blues....

Everyone gets them from time to time matey

 

Working 100 Hours a week and feeling rought, nice!!

 

There will always be greater and lesser persons than yourself,

That's just the way it is



Luciano

 

MONEY,MONEY MONEY......YOU WOULD ALL BE HAPPY.

It can,t by you LOVE or HEALTH.

Without the 2 of them.....Your f*cked.

 

Sounds like you make a shed load more money than me Andy - I work 44hrs a week (even tho it's closer to 55, I don't get paid overtime ) for a sub £20k basic (plus a little performance related bonus - nothing to write home about tho), yet I have a new house, still way over £10k in savings, no debt (other than mortgage obviously), and some nice things in my house.....

However, I don't have a car, and have cut down my spending to a minimum - go out once or twice a week but don't get wankered or waste money on cabs etc, so don't spend a lot on an evening out (unless it's a specific do or whatever)

Dunno - maybe I am just carefull with money, and spend a LOT of my time working out what I can or can't afford

Must now give up smoking to free up another £45 a week Save that for a year and it's a nice holiday I reckon!

 

Its a trip to the 'Ring if you quit!!

alex

 

Andy, money anit everything mate, im married, got a house and mortgage and baby on the way

i earn fuck all, the wife aint on much better but we make the most of what we have

ok when the baby comes we will have to take time out the mortgage, but its life, you live to your means etc

ps, if anoyone wants to give me a 20k+ a yer job, let us know eh

 

you got a baby on the way dan? man alive, you fucked

I dont need love, not in the slightest. Call me shallow, but as long as there mint pussy, I dont need love, if I want someone to talk to, I got mates, if I want someone to fuck I turn to birds, the end.

And heath wont change regardless, and if i was minted id prob be dead in 9months, but id not be that arsed.

Reasons people feel they "need" a lot of things is they DO cause they not minted, or know they will need it at sometime.

If I was fucking minted, maybe im shallow, but I dont think id really "need" anything I could do anything about.

As im not minted I certainly need health, family, and when im old and cant get fit birds, ill need love too. Without the money you need a lot, id be fucked without it.
But if I was fucking minted? Id survive I think.

 

You are being seriously bum-fucked if you have to do 100+ hour weeks for your 60K I earn 40K a year for 37.5 hours a week.

I've got mates who earn more than me, (one of them spent twelve years in the army, came out, made up the biggest load of bollocks about what he did in the army for his CV, then walked into a 55K a year recruitment job.) it's always good to try and better yourself, but why the fuck kill yourself trying?

It sounds to me that your CV would be pretty impressive anyway, so why not apply for something better?

 

pah, most of the fireman hours will be spent asleep anyway


But I meant with the 250 quid a day earning potential etc, all he needs to do is sack off the 20K fireman shite, and do 1 more day at 250 a week instead, and he is back to nearly the same money (which is good money IMHO) and for far less hours.

 

just the once back in feb

its due on the 22nd of Nov

i think im gonna have to learn how to rob banks and get away with it

cant wait tho

 

it's not that I don't appreciate what I have, but I spose it's jealousy of the fact that other people get so much more in life, not just materially either, for putting less effort in. Maybe I should of gone to Uni and done the whole Degree thing. Good luck to the loaded ones out there though. It doesn't help with my poor finances having Becks at home with the little man either, but it's nice to know that they're happy. Thing is though, as I said earlier I've only got £80 in the bank, that's it, shit aint it. Sometimes I put a huge invoice in to Chubb and it goes within days, insurance, TV licence, mortgage. I just wanna drive my Skyline but can't afford to.

Cheers for all the comments tonight guys, it's making me think a lot about things. I wish that everyone in life got paid the same hourly rate, and the more you work, the more you get. Simple?

Off to bed now, even now I'm on call for Community Responding through my local Ambulance Service, and I do that for free!


Night all.

 

How teh other half live and look down on us.

 

Need to be down to 60 hours a week, sounds like some good initial intentions with work have lead him to accidently mess up his priorities.

He like a lot of people with a one kid(s), a non working misses could live happily without any debt (apart from mortgage) on £30K but choose not to. Probably not the biggest house, going to be a shite car on the driveway etc but who cares as being happy and not poor IMO is better...

 

Monkey Nuts and Chip, your posts are exactly what I'm thinking!

 

Mate, I don't look down on anyone.

 

Well I earn more an hour than you, and I look down on Stu all the time, so his post is still valid

 

andyescos

the same thing been bothern me and everyone i know who works hard and still aint got nowt

i have rich mates and when i go to see em at their business's which also involves exotics, i just stand their and watch these stinking rich folks... at least 30% of them are in their 20's and alot in their 30's. i know most of them a involved in fraud and not 100% legit, alot of them are 100% iligel but the you see the life they live and THINK, think while standing their watching these 23 yr olds playing with exotic supercars and big houses.....

Lucky for some. I wish i went to school