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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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Well then lads and ladies i am in need of help again, i have got my car back on the road with all the parts ready and everything done, i have driven it around all day today and now when i went out about 10 mins ago i got within 5 minutes of my house and it just died leaving me stranded at the side of the road, i tried to restart it again and nothing was happening, i am almost positive i have plently of fuel going through and have a full tank of petrol today, i am really confused as to what it could be and need as much help as possible, thanks for any help u throw my way.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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first things first...

can you hear the fuel pump priming?
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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What does car do if you try to restart it?

No sound?
or There is sound but dont work?
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 08:06 PM
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boost hose popped off?
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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i checked the boost hoses first when it stopped and they are fine, when i was being towed home i tried to start it and it did but then just died and wasnt started properly anyway, i am gonna check the fuel pump now
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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jus checked the fuel pump relay and when you touch it to make it connect it primes the fuel pump but still wont start it??? what next
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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could check that it getting fuel past the metering head?
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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Does it turn over normally? What does it sound like when you try to start? Does it sound like the starter motor is turning the engine over more easily than usual? Could be a compression problem then, also check the cambelt.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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Have you got a spark?
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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Sudden power loss could indicate a pipe has come off producing an air leak.I, d check all of them.Get a friend to try and start it while you stick your head in the engine bay and lisen for any HISSING.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 12:07 AM
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yeh i am going to check all this tommorow, i didnt have a sudden loss of power it just stopped lol, and then wouldnt start again, i am going to check the ht leads and spark plugs tommorow then i am going to check for air leaks as i did look but it was in the dark so i couldnt see everything. Its just wierd that it runs fine all day including when i tested it to see if it was quicker or not and then it just goes. Cheers for all your help so far i will get back on here tommorw when i find out what it could be or even other things i need to check.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 12:09 AM
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yeh i am going to check all this tommorow, i didnt have a sudden loss of power it just stopped lol, and then wouldnt start again, i am going to check the ht leads and spark plugs tommorow then i am going to check for air leaks as i did look but it was in the dark so i couldnt see everything. Its just wierd that it runs fine all day including when i tested it to see if it was quicker or not and then it just goes. Cheers for all your help so far i will get back on here tommorw when i find out what it could be or even other things i need to check.

Similar thing happend to mine a couple of years ago.Driving all day then just cut out and wouldn,t start again.Turned out to be a F**KED DIZZY
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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same thing's happened to my gf's tubby

it was idling fine then just died, no weird noises or anything.

Fuel pump sounds rank, but this happened before and we thought it was the fuel pump, but turned out to be an air leak.

Only prob we've got is, the bonnet release seems to have broken too! So we can't get under the bonnet to check for any air leaks yet!!
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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well i managed to get it started lol but then it just cuts out and judders the car quite a bit like its missing, i got it started again and seems to be running fine, got it to idle then left it for about a minute and it just died, it has carried on doing this, me and my dad thought it may of been the fuel so i fitted a new fuel filter, started it up got it running seemed fine then same again just cuts it self off, i have a new fuel pump relay coming on tuesday so am going to try this but i can hear the fuel pump working, it just doesnt seem to have a continus flow of fuel. Or could it be anything else, i have no air leaks either. PLZ HELP!!!!!!
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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also forgot to meantion i read in another topic that the air flow meter flap should come up slowly and not spring up but mine springs up, could this be anything to do with it???
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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just to say that the metering head unit is bobbing up and down when the car is being started.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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Could be Fuel pressure regulator, mine used to run then just cut out. Does it take ages to start ??
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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alot of the time yes it takes a while to start up and then judders about, but sometimes it just starts but always ends up cutting out
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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It could be the regulator as i had a problem like this and safechav recommend that i change the fuel regulator is it does something with the fuel pressure from the tank to the fuel distrubutor.[/b]
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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did you fill up at tescos


not that dodgy fuel ???
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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well where is this regulator then is it the pinky/purple relay or not lol, i filled up at sainsburys and never had trouble before also we dont have catalysts which is what was causing the problem with the sensor burning out.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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could it also be anything to do with the fact i fitted a front mount intercooler??
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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On the fuel distrubutor top left hand corner there is a round cylinder(fuel regulator) with three red hoses, two going to the bit behind the air filter and the third goes to the middle of the car below the bulk head
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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right then i have taken the spark plugs out and given them a clean, i checked if i was getting fuel to the afm and the fuel is there on the 4 injector ports, but took the pipes off the injectors and not any coming out of there it would seem, will this do this as i have the pipes off or is it not gettin pressure to send the fuel up.
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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well i looked again and there is fuel coming out but only trickling should it be like this as i managed to get the car to start and idle but when i left it to cool down it struggled a lil but started again, could it just need a tune up as it has needed one even before i fitted the front mount. thanks
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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As you stated at the start of this post "it just cut out", i had a problem like that, so i asked about and i was told change the fuel reg, now i have it starts better now.

Dont know if the fuel should trickle through as you say it does, but seeing as the fuel reg was only a 25min job(im no mechanic) i just changed it.
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