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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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incidentally, spoke to my mate i aint seen in a while, his 450bhp ford focus is off for a rebuild next week, after its going to be 500bhp!!! he's already hit 196mph in it as it is, cant wait to see the result, its already max'd out the dyno it was on,lol....oh and its still fwd!!!



anyone know of this beast?
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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I thought the fastest one just did just over 160 in last month's PF .

196mph is absolute BOLLOCKS .

The Focus is totally and utterly limited by it's gearing and 160+ is an achievment in itself. Any faster will require a much higher rev limit or changing the gearing....
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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Did Steve Scott's focus do anywhere near that top speed?
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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KPH maybe?
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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reminds me of my mate who told me once that he didnt care if a 911 turbo would beat his scooby in a 1/4 mile he was content in the fact a standard scooby would hit 200mph! and he was serious!!!!

the focus doesnt exist,and how can it have been measured at 450bhp if it maxed out the dyno?and what shite dyno did they use?
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
Did Steve Scott's focus do anywhere near that top speed?
If you lop about 20mph off, then yes it did (177mph from memory).
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
Did Steve Scott's focus do anywhere near that top speed?
did that not do 170mph...im not sure myself
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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Wonder if it's a 1.6 focus?
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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Ian howell did a 170+ topspeed fwd - thought this was fastest focus?
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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thought as much
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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which forum mate? i'm expecting the usual pf take over
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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Its not I have the picture somewhere its 194 on the Road Angle he did say it was downhill and a tail wind, the car is undergoing work at the moment Ian has built it for 500 bhp then I think ad said its having 50 shot of gas.
The first build was buit by PE and Matt (Guzzler knows the car), Ad tells me that he wants 200mph at least hence the rebuild, Also Ians car will then smash that one when its done.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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it would be wrong of me to say
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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It's already booked in for a feature with Performance Ford as I understand, that will have the proper timing stuff etc there so I guess that will be prove.

Just wait and see.. Getting grip might be an issue.
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Originally Posted by PKA
Also Ians car will then smash that one his is a 2.3 Duratech
i heard he's going for 600bhp on that engine
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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I heard that figure, it will be very intresting to see.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PKA
Its not I have the picture somewhere its 194 on the Road Angle he did say it was downhill and a tail wind, the car is undergoing work at the moment Ian has built it for 500 bhp then I think ad said its having 50 shot of gas.
The first build was buit by PE and Matt (Guzzler knows the car), Ad tells me that he wants 200mph at least hence the rebuild, Also Ians car will then smash that one when its done.

When are these guys going to realise that normal Nitrous systems are as good as a chocalate tea pot for Topspeed, they are OK for a 10 sec drags down the strip but after 20secs or so the pressure has fallen drastically & they are not very effective, been there, done that. To get a Focus or indeed any car to 200mph will require at least 650bhp all the way down, 750bhp to be sure. Ask Fensport, Simon Norris or any one else thats done it.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 03:24 PM
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so a mclaren f1 wont do it?its only got 627bhp so must be rubbish!
SERIOUS question btw,would it do 200mph in bruntingthorpe?
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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The VW Phaeton has 450hp and can be made to do 200.... its not really got anything to do with power, its a mixture of powertrain and drivetrain, aswell as overcoming the forces of all the different types of drag.

The Mclaren did 212 didnt it?

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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
Wonder if it's a 1.6 focus?
no mate its a 1.4
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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mclaren will pull just over 240mph but i dont think thats in 1.5miles
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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ahh, must have got 212 from some other beast Not in 1.5 miles true, but i'd rather do 200 in one of them than a Focus :P

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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 04:00 PM
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Didnt a subaru do 210+ at brunters rod?
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
Didnt a subaru do 210+ at brunters rod?
Andy F done 210.4 in his Impreza a couple of months before he stacked ut.

Think that was done at elvington.

Cool car.

Bigwig:I had a blokeon another forum tell me his UK classic would do 170.And he had GPS fiqures to back this up.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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imo top speed challanges on short straight seem piontless as the cars must have more speed in them given more straight therefore it's not really the top speed is it. i'd be much more interested in finding out how fast cars go untill they stop going any faster
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 05:50 PM
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the only problem with that is that the rozzers will just put a road blok further up the motorway
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jaimesdna
imo top speed challanges on short straight seem piontless as the cars must have more speed in them given more straight therefore it's not really the top speed is it. i'd be much more interested in finding out how fast cars go untill they stop going any faster

i think thats what people are not realising, offical 'top speed' runs are done on around a 2 mile stretch, it would seem the said car had a lot more room than this
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Originally Posted by jammy86
The VW Phaeton has 450hp and can be made to do 200.... its not really got anything to do with power, its a mixture of powertrain and drivetrain, aswell as overcoming the forces of all the different types of drag.

The Mclaren did 212 didnt it?

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A longtail Mclaren LM did 211 at Brunters when it was longer ie. 2.1 miles total straight not 1.7. Its about aerodynamics we are much quicker to 180 than the Macca & a tad quicker to 200 but expect the Macca would be quicker to 210 & mine cant reach 220
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
Didnt a subaru do 210+ at brunters rod?
Think it was at Elvington but 210.2 is its record. We need to pass that officially before we can slat Scoobs, should happen later in the year, its a fast car that one .
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Originally Posted by jaimesdna
imo top speed challanges on short straight seem piontless as the cars must have more speed in them given more straight therefore it's not really the top speed is it. i'd be much more interested in finding out how fast cars go untill they stop going any faster
Find a longer straight & I will do just that. According to the maths with 920bhp mine will max at 235.7mph. Would take over 3miles maybe 4miles & the engine would require to take full throttle for about 1 minute, remember a miles takes less than 16s after 210mph. I hope you dont find that straight cos their is no way a Cossie engine with over 900bhp would hold together. .
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ThePH
mine cant reach 220
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i see a visit to a motorway soon then rod
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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Do you know the inside and out of Andys car, Rod?

I have seen it up close a few times and doesnt look THAT mental for the times/speeds it does.

it weight fook all, less than 1000kgs i think.

he has never had it power tested but when cornered about power he says 700.

he also runs the same ratio box for 1/4 and VMAX

what else makes it so quick?
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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I think I didnt wipe my arse properly..

I smell poo




Andy's car -
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