my girlfriends mum is on about 6k a year. shes has 2 children, my gf and her younger sister.does anyone know a ballpark figure for how much she would get for each child a month, she said something like 250 a month for each child.???

thanks

scott

 

 

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Scotty - why not just ask her? Surely she of all people will have the "right" answer here? (as I think it is all to do with circumstances and ammounts vary etc)

 

can i ask how its sponging? if your working to provide for your children but on a low wage, its one way of managing.

i work part time, and get about 8k a year wages, and my ctc is Ł63 a week for 2 kids, though im due to have 3rd in 2wks time

it wont be Ł250 per month per child, how old are they?

 

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/menus/credits.htm

TRY HERE

 

Perhap you should think about supporting numerous children before breeding like rabbits.

 

Dico and sarah her sis is 13 and she is 17 but 18 v.soon(her mum will stop receiving money for her at 18 she said) cant ask her mum but im just trying to find out something for a point i want to make.

 

And its hardly being a sponge gurnE. My parents have had a bloody hard time the last 16 years with lots of set backs due to businesses and my dads health. They have needed everything they can get with 4 children to raise.
Not a welcome caption!!!! I'm asking a geuine question to try and help my gf out with something and that is hardly useful is it!

 

I'm with gurnE on this one, it always amazes me that people on low incomes continue to breed, when they can't even afford to pay for the ones they've already got. It is called spongeing off the Government in my book.

 

the kids are 13 and 17 hardly just popd them out to spounge of the state have thay

maby when thay had the kids thay was in well payd jobs i cant see how your can juge people like that when you know fook all about them

if this thread was about sum 18 year old chave baby making unit then i wold understand you having a go

 

agreed...
peoples circumstances change over time ...

 

My comment, as was gurnEs was directed to Dicko&Sarah on a low income, who have a third kid due to drop soon, nothing to do with scotty86d's question regarding the 13 and 17 yr olds!

 

tbh thats really got my back up. I dont choose to sit at home on my arse all day claiming every benefit possible, i dont think oh well ive got kids so i wont work, i can manage on x amount a week.
Ive got a career AND children, i work part time, hence the reason my wages are topped up, having children and not being able to provide for them is not what im doing really is it?
I can provide for them, i get a decent wage for what hours i do work, but having 2 children at school means its impossible to work full time, and i for one do NOT agree with working full time, shoving them with some childminder who charges the earth for a few hours babysitting, missing out on bringing them up myself.
I could understand if i was having kids left right and centre so i get more benefits..... thats not the case. I get extra help from the government as im actually one of the parents who makes an effort to go out and work instead of sponging off the benefits system.
As for having a 3rd, its my 1st child with Lee, im not likely to wait until i start working full time, leaving a huge gap between my kids, just to please other people.

I really would like to see your definition of sponging though

 

as for the original topic, im not sure what age limit it applies to, i thought it was 16

 

Having children that you are unable to support wholly yourself without the aid of CTC.

 

All families with children can claim Child Tax Credit if their income is no more than Ł58,175 a year (up to Ł66,350 if you have a child under one).



for more info
http://www.ukbenefits.org/child_tax_credits.html

 

so the majority of people who earn under about Ł50k a year then....

seeing as thats upto what income you can claim for it

i wouldnt like to see what you would call people who dont work

 

so in redkops theory, anyone who earns under that wage ( about 95% of the country then) shouldnt be having kids as they cant support them

 

Make the kids work!

Bring back work houses and all this would be solved.

As for spongers, I think that's a very unfair generalisation without knowing someones circumstances.

 

the dream of having these lovely little babies is totaly different from reality
The problem with the system is that it is extremely complicated what would one expect from the governmet and is soley funded by those who pay income tax.

pmsl at gurnE

 

with the renewed intrest in people having fireplaces, i'm sure there will be a market for chimeny sweeps

 

Lets find out

I dont work!! *goes and hides*

 

Do get your facts correct and don't be so dim.

What you get is not the basic Child Benefit that most people are entitled to!
Child Benefit is a tax-free monthly payment to anyone bringing up a child or young person. It is not affected by income or savings so most people who are bringing up a child or young person qualify for it.

Ł17.45 a week for the eldest child
Ł11.70 a week for each additional child

You are getting Ł33.85 over and above basic child benefit and will no doubt be claiming more than Ł11.70 for the additional child when it appears.

 

utter bollocks!!!my parents managed to raise me and my younger brother and sister without a single penny from any government plan!and they CERTAINLY had nowhere near 50k a year!its called budgeting!if youre going to have 3 kids etc then go out and buy the latest flat screen tv and horrifically expensive to run cossies or evos etc then maybe you should have another look at your priorities!i wont even entrertain having kids until i can afford them on my own,why should everyone else pay to keep you and your family in luxury?i remember asking my parents what the fuck my mates were on about with the child support money as most of them got a cut of it as pocket money (ie theyd get a tenner a week,whereas i got mine increased from ONE pound to THREE pounds a week when i was about 14-15!!and this was 1994-95 NOT the 70s!)
you should be responsible for your own family etc IMO!there are far better things for tax to go on than a new ipod for little chardonnay!

 

i get a whopping Ł121.50 a year

is it worth it over the year? probably not

 

Big Wigs hit the nail on the head, everybody nowadays believe they should have a all the mod cons whether they pay for them or not.

No.... you should have what you pay for, i personally believe that nobody on benefit should have sky TV or broadband, and an annual review of there standard of living is required. If its too high then benefits are cut.

Tax payers should not be paying for these luxuries, essentials only, food, water and MAYBE some heating.

 

Dave Ridge My broadband is free, is that ok?

And before i get slated for being lazy for not working.. Im trying and trying keep getting rejection letters
Had a nervous breakdown which caused me to be scared to go out over the door or anything loads better now but still get the odd panic attack. I just seem to muck up interviews by getting that nervous
But beleive me, i hate being on benefits and just wish i could bring up my son with a wage.. and yes i would be claiming tax credits

 

me: can i have Ł10 dad?
my dad: hmm, you ask for Ł10, exepcting Ł5, you need Ł3 so here Ł1
i'm only 33 but we didn't have a telly until 1980 and no video until 1984 and sky in 1985
my first pair of trainers was bought in 1986 and i never got any pocket money at all
now i'm earning a few quid i don't mind spending it, and if there is free money then yes, send it this way, but i don't think that the state paying for the upkeep of your kids is the right way to go about things

if they made the stipulation that you had to be a certain age before you got any benifits or you'd end up out on your ear and your kids taken from you and you'd only get child benifits after it had been means tested and you had to be in a relationship bringing up the child between you are proper parents and you wern't going to get council housing if you have more than 2 kids they'd soon solve the problem

but it's their "human rights" isn't it that they'll be bleating on about

now, if you are happily married and things turn to shit then thats something else, but, at the same time, you can't be expected to have 10 kids from 10 different fathers and expect the state to pay for it, thats just wrong and i challenge anyone to say it's not

 

Jemma, i'm sure you get my point though.
OK in a bundle package it maybe classed as free but ultimately you pay. Without it i'm sure a better deal could be found.

Most people get concerned about the 'types' that have never worked, never intend to and yet still have loads of kids EXPECTING everybody else to pay for them, believeing it there god given right to have as many kids as they like at everyone elses expense.

Is that FAIR ???

I would like broadband at home but prioritise mortgage, council tax, elec, gas, water, school dinners etc etc, ohhh these are half the thins many people get free plus benefit, hardly fair.

 

and i have to justify myself to you because of what exactly? as its stated above, families with an income of upto Ł58k receive CTC, so does that mean that they shouldnt be having kids either because theyre entitled to help?

 

LOL @ the sponge pic

if you know you are going to be on benefits from day one dont have the fookin kids....

the partner should trade the low earner in for a higher paid model.... and breed with them problem solved

 

Kevin

 

why is everyone else paying to keep my family in luxury? i work, i pay tax and national insurance, ive got a damn sight more rights than the majority of people who come into this country and expect a free life. If you actually took the time to read the thread properly and see that i DONT claim benefits just for the crack of it, i actually go out and make a living, thats topped up by the goverment,im not going to say oh no dont give me the extra Ł30 a week ill just manage without cant say i know anyone who would tbpfh

 

Dave Ridge I get what you mean, but i aint that "type"

I know loads off people round here, who are like that thou.. and it really grinds my gears!

 

Dicko&Sarah I'd do exactly the same as you, and i see exactly where you are coming from.

 

and i would like the same, but it doesnt mean i get it

everything you have put there, i also pay, but im classed as a sponger because i earn under Ł58k a year ... so shouldnt you be as well????

 

it gets right on my nerves when people presume instead of knowing the facts. I WORK AND PAY TAX

IM NOT AN IMMIGRANT LIVING OFF THE BENEFITS SYSTEM WITH NO INTENTION OF GIVING THIS COUNTRY ANYTHING YET EXPECTING EVERYTHING.

people these days are so stuck up its unreal......

 

edited this post, not worth it with all the narrow minded people who don't have a clue.......

 

no ones stuck up they just want you to stop breeding if you need to be on benefits

 

the world is a far more expensive place nowadays mick