Can someone please explain the point behind doing this.

They have limited traction for drag racing and are useless round a track.

You always see 400 bhp RSTs putting in 14 sec quarter mile times when a RWD car would be in the 12s.

If you want to go FWD surely you would be better of working on the handling, as shown by the 1400cc fezza in PF track challenge.

 

I don't think people are building fast RST's for handling mate!

Most of the time people will be using them for top speed and once on the move would beat a similar power RWD car with ease

 

what you say is cock on but .......

why not

I suppose why would someone build a fast RWD car when a 4x4 is quicker, each to their own I guess

 

is it a pub thing

 

You been on the scotch already!?

 

I had a 200BHP RST and that was more than the chassis could handle.


Dave

 

You always see 400 bhp RSTs putting in 14 sec quarter mile times when a RWD car would be in the 12s.

you say that like 400bhp rs turbos are common mate...... lot of em round your way???????????????????????????????????????

 

never stopped

 

Cheeky coont! I'm stuck at fuckin work!

sedan man There may not be a lot round his way but there are alot more than you think in the country now!

 

Just what I was thinking!!

How many 400bhp RST's do you know of??!!

 

Maybe some people do go all out on the suspension as well as doing the rest

 

still a fast car on the rol tho...

wasnt that scottish fella with the black FRST had something like 400bhp zetec turbo?

i know of few under 200bhp rst's which get in the 14's easily

and didnt paul ripleys do a 12.8 in the end?? with like 260-270bhp?


please correct me if i am wrong

 

Good point, when a 90bhp fwd festa can beat a 400+bhp 4x4 cossie round track you got to think why are you bothering and what have you built the car for? Is it just bragging rights as I think that is what most motors end up as, whats your aim? Top speed, circuit fun, wasting money?

 

mabey the guys point should have been dont build a 400 bhp erst for the 1/4 mile...

as for useless on a track id say it depends on a lot of factors tbh

 

big big FUN!!!!

 

Garage19

shy did you build a big BHP zetec when if you spent the same money on a YB you would have alot more torque/power?

its all about having fun, not times or numbers

 

You having a laugh mate?

I've driven enough 250bhp+ RS Turbos to know that they are far from fun......... unless your definition of fun is how many lanes you can torque steer across, or how little feedback you can gain trying to shove that much power through the front wheels.

Dross.

 

Why did Rod build a 200MPH Sierra??? Whats the point of a veyron? you can only do 70 in this country anyway, so what is the point??

Each to their own, when I have enough money I will also have a big BHP Cossie, but all my friends that arent into cars are like "whats the Point?" my reply "Cos I want to!" besides with the right mods you can make any car handle so why not a front drive Escort? Plus as said what smile it inducer it must be when on the roll against a so called "supercar" in a 17 year old FWD Ford and to blow them into the weeds?

Nostalgia? Power to the People? what ever, point is, Why not?

 

i bet you laughed when you was driven them though

 

A decent suspension setup on a high power fwd like the erst/frst should see you into 12's over the quarter. Again if youve bothered to sort out some suspension they not that bad on track either. For rolling straight liners there great
Each to there own i guess
For me perosnally i havnt got the cash to be playing with mega expensive 4x4 setups and up norf the weather is piss poor 99% of the time which makes high power rwd dangerous.....infact a 270hp cossie scares the shit out of me in the wet

 

Not really mate.

Whilst contending with the inevitable vibration from those crap far too hard Vibratechnics engine mounts they all tend to run, and the shockingly bad ride they all tend to have not helped by 17s and low profile tyres, it wasn't really much fun at all.

When you can buy something with a Ford badge that is just as quick, but far more fun for the money people end up spending on these bean tins, then it seems entirely pointless.

 

also how many 12sec 1/4 mile rwd cossies, they all seem to do shit times!!!!! well from what ive seen anyway!!!

 

why not build a 400 bhp rs turbo.....theres nothing else going on just now is there

 

why you driven "enough" of them then? if they are no fun?

i know if someone offers me a drive of a car i wont enjoy i turn the drive down

 

i know what you mean, you can dial alot of the torque steer out thou


mine didnt really torque steer at all, would light the wheels up easily enough if you wanted to


have done alot more to the suspension side of things this time round so should be even better


bearing in mind mine aint 400bhp thou

 

Well when it involves roadtesting the cars at work, you don't "turn the drive down" do ya?

 

just wondering your reasons behind asking this ?
i mean



if you got the money and want it, why not.

 

ah shite i forgot what you did before

 

More torque/power for the same money?

I don't think so. The zetec cost approx 50% of what most people would spend on a fresh 400-450bhp YB

 

I'm bored at work and i thought i would put the cat amoung the pigeons and see what happens!

 

Rubbish about the 1/4 mile times too!!!! You can get VERY quick FWD 1/4 miles times. just the owners dont build them for it. Just whack a powerful engine in car and mainyl do fook all to the rest of it

 

like i stated above

 

fair play mate cos ya done it

 

we aint talking about other people, we are on about you,,, how much would it cost you to build a 450 BHP YB? how much has the zetec cost? now if you tell me it was 50% cheaper for the zetec i know your lieing

 

Whats the PF track challange ?

 

mean Ford V BMW V Evos

 

i think its that beat the dorf in performance ford

 

its a question everyone will answer differently and there is no logical explanation other than because i want to and i can.
its the same as asking why some ESCOS owners spend thousands on a car that at the end of the day is still a ford escort when for the same kind of money they could have a car with a more prestigious badge or asking the buffys why they buy a decent car only to garage it and trailor it to shows... the reasons are the same... because we can, we want to !!

A 400bhp rwd car makes no more sence than a 400bhp fwd car, neither make any more sence than buying a range rover to climb the near vertical curbs we have in London.... but do they really need to be justified ?

 

Im building a quick fwd s2 because I like the shape of the S2.

Or I would have got a 3dr/saff

Why else would anyone do it?

 

For the life of me I cant understand why people think a RST doesnt handle on track.Every year,for the past 5/6 years at National Day I pass Cossie's in my RST,and when I get talking to the owners they all have at least 150 BHP more than me!!!!Have done the same at Castle Combe over the years too.Am getting a little tired of my RST but am very reluctant to spend thousands on a Cossie track car to find it laps the same or slower than my RST,and slightly off topic,but after reading countless topic's on Passionford about Cossie owners having their cars break down,I'm not too sure a Cossie would be reliable either.Regards,Micky