LM-1 sensor and aux inputs
Am i right in thinking that for logging with the LM-1 wideband I only need the RPM box and not the Aux box if I then tap into the vehicles MAP/Temp etc sensors as they are all 0-5v anyway, so i dont need the aux box which basically just contains these sensors in it?
Thanks in advance for any help
Chip
Thanks in advance for any help
Chip
Originally Posted by GARETH T
you are correct
the aux box is faster and easyer to setup though
the aux box is faster and easyer to setup though

This is for permenant install into a vehicle though in this instance so not worried about ease of setup as will only be doing it once, will probably get an aux box later on though and a second loom to allow me to transfer the LM-1 to other vehicles too and setup easily etc.
Originally Posted by chip-3door
PS
where have you found to be the cheapest place for getting the actual lamba sensor itself to use with the LM1?
where have you found to be the cheapest place for getting the actual lamba sensor itself to use with the LM1?
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With the exchange rate it may be cheaper to get spares from here.
Mine is also hard-wired in the car, RPM convertor is mounted near the ECU and I tapped into the harness for boost pressure, TPS, I got my RPM siginal off the ignition amp.
Can someone send me their setting for the boost on the LM-1? I've had mine for sometime now but still not comfortable with the settings. Vaccum seems to be a bit off from what my aftermarket gauge reads.
Wes
Mine is also hard-wired in the car, RPM convertor is mounted near the ECU and I tapped into the harness for boost pressure, TPS, I got my RPM siginal off the ignition amp.
Can someone send me their setting for the boost on the LM-1? I've had mine for sometime now but still not comfortable with the settings. Vaccum seems to be a bit off from what my aftermarket gauge reads.
Wes
Mine uses the Bosch 6066 sensor, which aint the cheapest to be honest.
I know a lot use the cheaper Veedub item, with reference numebr (this is VW ref number I think) # 021-906-262-B. This one is known as the 7057 UI think
Good luck
JJ
I know a lot use the cheaper Veedub item, with reference numebr (this is VW ref number I think) # 021-906-262-B. This one is known as the 7057 UI think
Good luck
JJ
Try this number - I think this is the Bosch PArt No.
0 258 007 057
This is for the 7057 part. I got this number from the supplier that I bought my Wideband controller etc from as a pack.
I can get you the more expensive 6066 number if you like?
JJ
0 258 007 057
This is for the 7057 part. I got this number from the supplier that I bought my Wideband controller etc from as a pack.
I can get you the more expensive 6066 number if you like?
JJ
http://wbo2.com/orderpage.htm#SENSORS
Just buy it from the above you tosser! The exchange rate to Oz is pretty good, and the last time, they got it to me faster than the local nobs.
I have even done the maths for you - It will cost you including packageing £97 aussie dollars, which is £38 + VAT, only if Inland Rev pick it up, which they shouldnt on something of this cost!
You wont need it till the weekend anyway!!! LOL
JJ
Just buy it from the above you tosser! The exchange rate to Oz is pretty good, and the last time, they got it to me faster than the local nobs.
I have even done the maths for you - It will cost you including packageing £97 aussie dollars, which is £38 + VAT, only if Inland Rev pick it up, which they shouldnt on something of this cost!
You wont need it till the weekend anyway!!! LOL
JJ
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by Garage19
Remember you should never run a WBo2 sensor in a car with out the sensor being powered up.
JJ
Originally Posted by JjCoDeX75
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by Garage19
Remember you should never run a WBo2 sensor in a car with out the sensor being powered up.
JJ
Answers to eeeevvvvvveeerrrything LM1 related.
Knock your self out son.
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/forums/
Knock your self out son.
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/forums/
Originally Posted by Garage19
Answers to eeeevvvvvveeerrrything LM1 related.
Knock your self out son.
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/forums/
Knock your self out son.
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/forums/
ull never buy one
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by JayCos
golf 20vavle turbo passat audi tt ls 4.2 sensor
Thankyou for actaully answering the question I asked unlike that CUNT jj with his silly confusing numbers

allegedly if they arent hot enough the fuel can damage them, but im not convinced its as big a problem as people make out.
JJ
Originally Posted by JjCoDeX75
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by JayCos
golf 20vavle turbo passat audi tt ls 4.2 sensor
Thankyou for actaully answering the question I asked unlike that CUNT jj with his silly confusing numbers

Originally Posted by JjCoDeX75
allegedly if they arent hot enough the fuel can damage them, but im not convinced its as big a problem as people make out.
JJ
Do you need a specific map sensor? Any pressure transducer will work with a 0-5V output, the LM1 is fully programable. It doesn't even need to be conditioned (ie linear). The inputs are high impedance, so if the car has one, u can use that MAP sensor. I've read the my gauge isn't working posts, and have come to the conclusion they are written by retards who can't follow instructions... I've worked with loads of innovate gear and never had a single fault.
Mine is a permanant install, and has been fine for over 18 months - driven daily. It is wired to come on with ignition. You will reduce the life of the sensor if you run it cold. The LM-1 will never give you a bad reading though, if the sensor drifits it will give you an error message, and you need to replace the sensor. The digital signal processing is what seperated the Innovate from every other wideband controller. The time taken for the sensor to warm up when the car is started will not effect the life - very low pressure exhaust gas at idle, low rpm.
Mine is a permanant install, and has been fine for over 18 months - driven daily. It is wired to come on with ignition. You will reduce the life of the sensor if you run it cold. The LM-1 will never give you a bad reading though, if the sensor drifits it will give you an error message, and you need to replace the sensor. The digital signal processing is what seperated the Innovate from every other wideband controller. The time taken for the sensor to warm up when the car is started will not effect the life - very low pressure exhaust gas at idle, low rpm.
BTW, u dont actually have to buy the rpm convertor to log MAP. THe LM-1 has the datalogging built in for six channels. The convertor is a D/A convertor to convert Tach pulses to a linear voltage that the LM-1 can understand. If u dont want RPM, and you're a pikey, then you can get a mini DIN connector, and wire the the MAP sensor, TPS etc straight in...
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by Eagle
wish i could go looking for a lambda sensor ... not worth it yet as im still waiting for my PLM to be delivered 


Originally Posted by Rick
Do you need a specific map sensor? Any pressure transducer will work with a 0-5V output, the LM1 is fully programable. It doesn't even need to be conditioned (ie linear). The inputs are high impedance, so if the car has one, u can use that MAP sensor. I've read the my gauge isn't working posts, and have come to the conclusion they are written by retards who can't follow instructions... I've worked with loads of innovate gear and never had a single fault.
Mine is a permanant install, and has been fine for over 18 months - driven daily. It is wired to come on with ignition. You will reduce the life of the sensor if you run it cold. The LM-1 will never give you a bad reading though, if the sensor drifits it will give you an error message, and you need to replace the sensor. The digital signal processing is what seperated the Innovate from every other wideband controller. The time taken for the sensor to warm up when the car is started will not effect the life - very low pressure exhaust gas at idle, low rpm.
Mine is a permanant install, and has been fine for over 18 months - driven daily. It is wired to come on with ignition. You will reduce the life of the sensor if you run it cold. The LM-1 will never give you a bad reading though, if the sensor drifits it will give you an error message, and you need to replace the sensor. The digital signal processing is what seperated the Innovate from every other wideband controller. The time taken for the sensor to warm up when the car is started will not effect the life - very low pressure exhaust gas at idle, low rpm.
I agree. Innovate is great stuff and i have never had any probs. The self calibration and the fact it throws up an error when the results are not accurate rather than just giving you duff data is what makes it the best wbo2.
Originally Posted by Rick
Do you need a specific map sensor? Any pressure transducer will work with a 0-5V output, the LM1 is fully programable. It doesn't even need to be conditioned (ie linear). The inputs are high impedance, so if the car has one, u can use that MAP sensor. I've read the my gauge isn't working posts, and have come to the conclusion they are written by retards who can't follow instructions... I've worked with loads of innovate gear and never had a single fault.
Mine is a permanant install, and has been fine for over 18 months - driven daily. It is wired to come on with ignition. You will reduce the life of the sensor if you run it cold. The LM-1 will never give you a bad reading though, if the sensor drifits it will give you an error message, and you need to replace the sensor. The digital signal processing is what seperated the Innovate from every other wideband controller. The time taken for the sensor to warm up when the car is started will not effect the life - very low pressure exhaust gas at idle, low rpm.
Mine is a permanant install, and has been fine for over 18 months - driven daily. It is wired to come on with ignition. You will reduce the life of the sensor if you run it cold. The LM-1 will never give you a bad reading though, if the sensor drifits it will give you an error message, and you need to replace the sensor. The digital signal processing is what seperated the Innovate from every other wideband controller. The time taken for the sensor to warm up when the car is started will not effect the life - very low pressure exhaust gas at idle, low rpm.
JJ
Originally Posted by JjCoDeX75
Originally Posted by Rick
Do you need a specific map sensor? Any pressure transducer will work with a 0-5V output, the LM1 is fully programable. It doesn't even need to be conditioned (ie linear). The inputs are high impedance, so if the car has one, u can use that MAP sensor. I've read the my gauge isn't working posts, and have come to the conclusion they are written by retards who can't follow instructions... I've worked with loads of innovate gear and never had a single fault.
Mine is a permanant install, and has been fine for over 18 months - driven daily. It is wired to come on with ignition. You will reduce the life of the sensor if you run it cold. The LM-1 will never give you a bad reading though, if the sensor drifits it will give you an error message, and you need to replace the sensor. The digital signal processing is what seperated the Innovate from every other wideband controller. The time taken for the sensor to warm up when the car is started will not effect the life - very low pressure exhaust gas at idle, low rpm.
Mine is a permanant install, and has been fine for over 18 months - driven daily. It is wired to come on with ignition. You will reduce the life of the sensor if you run it cold. The LM-1 will never give you a bad reading though, if the sensor drifits it will give you an error message, and you need to replace the sensor. The digital signal processing is what seperated the Innovate from every other wideband controller. The time taken for the sensor to warm up when the car is started will not effect the life - very low pressure exhaust gas at idle, low rpm.
JJ
Mine does that when the sensor is fucked (tech edge)
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