Ford Escort RS Turbo This forum is for discussion of all things pertaining to the Ford Escort Rs Turbo Series 1 and 2.

BLEED VALVES!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 02:53 PM
  #1  
davsmith64's Avatar
davsmith64
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 673
Likes: 0
From: barnsley, south yorkshire
Default BLEED VALVES!!!

ok here i have a ERST running EFI managment,, i broke my amal valve so i bought a bleed valve but its a T piece one, where as the amal valve from a frst only has 2 pipes going to it,,

i blocked the one off that makes no difference when i turn the bleed valve and used the other 2,,

i cant boost above 5psi again!!!

i thought i had sorted it but i havnt as the pipe had come off from the turbo housing..

how do i set it up??

do i set my actuator fully closed??
which way do i turn the bleed valve to up the boost?
which way to down the boost?
is there a certain way the go the pipes?
have i made a mistake blocking off a pipe??

is there a guide on how to set em up,, regards dave,,
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 06:11 PM
  #2  
tim10_10's Avatar
tim10_10
PassionFord Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 487
Likes: 0
From: herne Bay, Kent
Default

Best way to set up is not bother and use another amal valve. If you are going to use a bleed valve, make sure the correct pre load is applied to the actuator. On the bleed valve there should be 3 pipes, the one in the middle just goes to atmosphere, then run pipe from actuator to one side and the other side to the compressor housing on the turbo by passing the old amal valve. If you unscrew the bleed valve boost should increase. Just go easy with out a fueling check could be disasterous.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 06:59 PM
  #3  
Stu @ M Developments's Avatar
Stu @ M Developments
PassionFords Creator
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 28,824
Likes: 95
From: Blackpool, UK Destination: Rev limiter
Default

How have you got the systemn piped up? As per std FRST? with one pipe T' ing into the actuator/turbo pipe and feeding the wastegate valve on teh wing?
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 07:09 PM
  #4  
Chris69's Avatar
Chris69
BANNED
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,962
Likes: 0
Default

It kinda sounds like u've plumbed it in the same way as i have mine.
If u have u should be able to raise the boost by unscrewing the valve.
when the valve is fully turned in then ur not actually using it as i understand- hence the 5psi u have at the mo
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 07:32 PM
  #5  
davsmith64's Avatar
davsmith64
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 673
Likes: 0
From: barnsley, south yorkshire
Default

well here is how i have it plumbed in.. as the ERST amal valve has 3 pipes to it i rekon this bleed valve would suit it,,

where as a frst bleed valve has 2 pipes to it, i dont know where to put them,,

heres how it is..#

Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 07:37 PM
  #6  
user 7082039239's Avatar
user 7082039239
Don't mention ze Vor
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,596
Likes: 0
Default

The third port shouldn't be blocked off, IMO.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 07:40 PM
  #7  
user 7082039239's Avatar
user 7082039239
Don't mention ze Vor
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,596
Likes: 0
Default

Well I just re-read this and it sounds like you don't just have a "bleed valve" but something called "manual boost controller"

Can you post a pic up by any chance?
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 07:41 PM
  #8  
tim10_10's Avatar
tim10_10
PassionFord Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 487
Likes: 0
From: herne Bay, Kent
Default

Blocked off one should go to actuator. The one in the middle just leave it going to atmosphere.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 07:43 PM
  #9  
davsmith64's Avatar
davsmith64
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 673
Likes: 0
From: barnsley, south yorkshire
Default

ok how should i do it? does it just go to the atmosphere??

like this?


actuator ======= T==========Atmosphere

..................................TURBO
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 07:50 PM
  #10  
tim10_10's Avatar
tim10_10
PassionFord Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 487
Likes: 0
From: herne Bay, Kent
Default

Swap the atmosphere and turbo round on your above diagram. Yes it just goes to atmosphere this is where it bleeds off the air that would normally open your wastegate.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 07:58 PM
  #11  
davsmith64's Avatar
davsmith64
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 673
Likes: 0
From: barnsley, south yorkshire
Default

well if i blow down one of the top pipes and turn the valve it adjusts the air flow on the bottom atmosphere pipe,??

so i just let the bottom go to atomsphere, this is the one that regulates the air flow??
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 08:22 PM
  #12  
Stu @ M Developments's Avatar
Stu @ M Developments
PassionFords Creator
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 28,824
Likes: 95
From: Blackpool, UK Destination: Rev limiter
Default

The bottom port bleeds air AWAY from teh actuator pal, not ONTO it.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 08:23 PM
  #13  
davsmith64's Avatar
davsmith64
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 673
Likes: 0
From: barnsley, south yorkshire
Default

so the top pipes dont adjust any airflow at all?? its just the bottom pipe that adjusts air flow??
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 09:55 PM
  #14  
tim10_10's Avatar
tim10_10
PassionFord Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 487
Likes: 0
From: herne Bay, Kent
Default

Basically when you increase the air going to atmosphere your reducing the air that would normally got o the actuator. There for it opens later meaning more boost is produced before it opens.
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 11:11 AM
  #15  
davsmith64's Avatar
davsmith64
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 673
Likes: 0
From: barnsley, south yorkshire
Default

ok how much preload will i need on my actuator??
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 11:31 AM
  #16  
Stu @ M Developments's Avatar
Stu @ M Developments
PassionFords Creator
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 28,824
Likes: 95
From: Blackpool, UK Destination: Rev limiter
Default

6mm max.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
abz474
Cars for Sale
9
Nov 1, 2015 06:53 PM
Chas
Ford Escort RS Turbo
14
Oct 5, 2015 07:13 PM
DAZZER
Ford Escort RS Turbo
5
Sep 30, 2015 08:43 PM
fordrallycar
Ford RS Cosworth Parts for Sale
0
Sep 30, 2015 07:57 PM
markk
General Car Related Discussion.
9
Sep 9, 2015 08:11 AM




All times are GMT. The time now is 10:11 AM.