2litre Zetec better than an RST engine in a modern Escort?
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Just wondering what people think seeing as I got a pretty clear idea of people's views on buying a mk5 with an RST engine last night
I've seen a mk6 I quite like. Should be an easy conversion right? Not too taxing.
Buy the car, buy the engine, do some stuff to the engine over a couple/few months than whack it in? What's it take to get a nice 170-180bhp out of a 2.0 Zetec, and which are the best Zetecs to use?
I was thinking along the lines of Cams, Exhaust, TBs, Chip etc? Obviously wouldn't wanna spend silly money so £1k a piece TBs are a no no.
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I've seen a mk6 I quite like. Should be an easy conversion right? Not too taxing.
Buy the car, buy the engine, do some stuff to the engine over a couple/few months than whack it in? What's it take to get a nice 170-180bhp out of a 2.0 Zetec, and which are the best Zetecs to use?
I was thinking along the lines of Cams, Exhaust, TBs, Chip etc? Obviously wouldn't wanna spend silly money so £1k a piece TBs are a no no.
NO NEGATIVE SHIT PLEASE!
Lol, it isnt cheap to get 170 bhp from a Zetec-E normailly aspirated.
Loads of peeps say it is but in practise it never quite works out
I'd hunt for an ST170 engine myself with manifolds etc and save urself the headache and expense
Loads of peeps say it is but in practise it never quite works out
I'd hunt for an ST170 engine myself with manifolds etc and save urself the headache and expense
that is good advice from Matt.
modifying engines, particulalrly n/a ones is a waste of money at your age. there's the increased fuel consumption, insurance etc, and for what? a little bit more speed. why not just buy a faster car in the first place? you'll realise all that one day when you're old and wise like me
modifying engines, particulalrly n/a ones is a waste of money at your age. there's the increased fuel consumption, insurance etc, and for what? a little bit more speed. why not just buy a faster car in the first place? you'll realise all that one day when you're old and wise like me
For 170bhp out of a 2.0 zetec, you'd need a good throttle body kit, plus 4-2-1 manifold and full exhaust after that. That alone is £3k mate.
Personally, I think you should buy the escort, fit the 2.0, and then see if you need more power.
All the info is available on Escort Evo, and you can use all the standard Ford parts, so no nasty chipped 1.8 / 1.6 ecus to correct the fueling
What BMW do you have at the moment? The escort will be faster than a 320i
Personally, I think you should buy the escort, fit the 2.0, and then see if you need more power.
All the info is available on Escort Evo, and you can use all the standard Ford parts, so no nasty chipped 1.8 / 1.6 ecus to correct the fueling
What BMW do you have at the moment? The escort will be faster than a 320i
Originally Posted by Ex-Finesse
For 170bhp out of a 2.0 zetec, you'd need a good throttle body kit, plus 4-2-1 manifold and full exhaust after that. That alone is £3k mate.
Personally, I think you should buy the escort, fit the 2.0, and then see if you need more power.
All the info is available on Escort Evo, and you can use all the standard Ford parts, so no nasty chipped 1.8 / 1.6 ecus to correct the fueling
What BMW do you have at the moment? The escort will be faster than a 320i
Personally, I think you should buy the escort, fit the 2.0, and then see if you need more power.
All the info is available on Escort Evo, and you can use all the standard Ford parts, so no nasty chipped 1.8 / 1.6 ecus to correct the fueling
What BMW do you have at the moment? The escort will be faster than a 320i

Well for TB's you need new managment, and mapping. You will need cams too. Fuel pump etc?
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Originally Posted by MattRS1600i
Well for TB's you need new managment, and mapping. You will need cams too. Fuel pump etc?
Kits come complete with all the management, and some hotter cams. Standard fuel pump is used.
I budgeted £500 for a complete mapping session. £2k kit... £500 mapping... £300 manifold... £200 is not enough for other little bits and pieces, but that's how I arrived at £3k
Originally Posted by Ex-Finesse
Originally Posted by MattRS1600i
Well for TB's you need new managment, and mapping. You will need cams too. Fuel pump etc?
Kits come complete with all the management, and some hotter cams. Standard fuel pump is used.
I budgeted £500 for a complete mapping session. £2k kit... £500 mapping... £300 manifold... £200 is not enough for other little bits and pieces, but that's how I arrived at £3k
Now getting na power needs revs so i reckon a nice set of arp rod bolts is needed at least too. Verniers for the cams etc Not trying to be a dick but it will all add up doing it properly and reliably in all honesty. Been there and done it and it's nowhere near as good an engine for n/a modding as a 1.6 zetec-se
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Forget it then, a lot more money than I thought.
I've got a 325 E36.
I miss my old Escort and would like another but I want a bit of power. If I'm not getting one with any power then I may as well buy a Golf GTi mk2 or mk3 for the time being.
I've got a 325 E36.
I miss my old Escort and would like another but I want a bit of power. If I'm not getting one with any power then I may as well buy a Golf GTi mk2 or mk3 for the time being.
Originally Posted by DogSmoke
Forget it then, a lot more money than I thought.
I've got a 325 E36.
I miss my old Escort and would like another but I want a bit of power. If I'm not getting one with any power then I may as well buy a Golf GTi mk2 or mk3 for the time being.
I've got a 325 E36.
I miss my old Escort and would like another but I want a bit of power. If I'm not getting one with any power then I may as well buy a Golf GTi mk2 or mk3 for the time being.
if you want to do it on a budget.. use bike throttle bodies and something like megasquirt. dead cheap that way.
mine makes 172 on carbs, but if you're putting it in a modern car the chances of you getting anywhere near emissions regs i would imagine are slim, plus the carbs would cost more than the bike TBs and megasquirt is just pennies.
mine makes 172 on carbs, but if you're putting it in a modern car the chances of you getting anywhere near emissions regs i would imagine are slim, plus the carbs would cost more than the bike TBs and megasquirt is just pennies.
Originally Posted by MattRS1600i
Originally Posted by Ex-Finesse
I budgeted £500 for a complete mapping session. £2k kit... £500 mapping... £300 manifold... £200 is not enough for other little bits and pieces, but that's how I arrived at £3k 
it's nowhere near as good an engine for n/a modding as a 1.6 zetec-se
Do the 1.6 SEs respond well to tuning? I assume you mean fairly light tuning, not doubling the power?
if u no were to get the parts at the right price make a cheap zt, de-comp plate mega squirt modded sump erst oil feed drilled and tapped head erst manifold turbo and down pipe , frst inlet fuel rail and some injecters sorted , could do it for 1k oh and frst clutch and erst box
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