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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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looking for some help!

ive recently had my box changed and when the garage changed it they told me my clutch was 80% worn. i couldnt afford to get the clutch fixed as the 1 in it has only coverd 6000 miles. its an ap4 paddle. now when im driving the car it is harder to get into gear and crunches bad going into reverse.

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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 10:45 PM
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Firstly an AP paddle will look 80% worn from new, so if the garage fitting the box were only used to seeing/fitting standard stuff they would not be any wiser and would think its worn. Dont worry.

The gear crunching in reverse is either a misalignment of the linkage, or a knackered box. If it struggles when your driving forward, again it could be linkage /box problems or possibly the engine or gearbox mountings.

Go back to them and ask them to re align it, as this is the cheapest option first, tell them your not happy and if the re alignment does not solve it then can they advise you on what the problem is.

They will possibly try to blame it on the clutch so be aware, but a worn clutch will not make the box struggle for gears as you suggest.
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 11:07 PM
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thats exactly what i thought and they did try to blame the clutch but as the pads on the clutch are a lot thiner on the ap i can agree with what u say.
they only prob was the garage said they couldnt warranty the box because the car is running 244bhp. this maybe a prob i will need to fix myself. when the car wont go into gear i was told to put it in a high gear then quickly change it and it goes straight in.
this is just 2 much hassle.
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 06:52 AM
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Changing gears on high rpm and it crunches, isn't that worn synchro rings?
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 08:16 AM
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no synchro rings on reverse
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by lewis_lisa
they only prob was the garage said they couldnt warranty the box because the car is running 244bhp.
Next time go and see Bernie at CTS his box's are simply the bollocks and he doesn't fob you off. I had similar problems with a recon box that broke and was told it couldn't be repaired under warantee as the car was modified, it had a fucking induction kit on it when it went on the rollers for the first time it only made 119bhp

This garage clearly don't know about the cars or the parts so it might be in your intrest to find a garage that knows what's what
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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cheers for the help guys. when the recon box breaks i will go to c t s. as it prob wont be long. i only use the car in the summer anyway.
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 02:17 PM
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Don't overlook a broken clutch quadrant.......

If its gone the clutch won't be dis-engaging properly and will cause the same symptoms!
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by NUTS RuS
no synchro rings on reverse
Any good tips on how to adjust the linkage correctly?
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 06:51 AM
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Either mark its position when you take it off, or I either set mine in either neutral or reverse, and use 2 people 1 inside, and 1 under the car. It can then sometimes take me about 4 goes until I am happy with it.
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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So you just have to set it and test? My gears go in perfectly, but when changing gears on high revs it crunches slightly on upshift on 3. and 4. Also reverse crunches often, if my reverse is ok, the linkage posistion for 3. and 4. would be ok too? Easier to test crunhing in reverse than driving hard to provoke crunching in 3. and 4.
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 08:18 AM
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Try putting the gear in reverse. Then look from the left side to the selector under of the car. On the bottom of the cover it has an opening inside which you see the end of the gear stick (if in reverse). There is a small hole across the end of the gearstick. This hole should be in the center of the opening. Usuing a suitable tool is can also be locked to this position. Then one can slacken and reticken the selector arm and it should be spot on.
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JesseT
Try putting the gear in reverse. Then look from the left side to the selector under of the car. On the bottom of the cover it has an opening inside which you see the end of the gear stick (if in reverse). There is a small hole across the end of the gearstick. This hole should be in the center of the opening. Usuing a suitable tool is can also be locked to this position. Then one can slacken and reticken the selector arm and it should be spot on.
This is the correct method however it rarely works well if your selector linkage has slack in it, which by this stage in life most of them do
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Would suggest either a worn synchro on 4th Rallyesportoossible slight misalignment yes.
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Originally Posted by NUTS RuS
Rallyesportoossible slight misalignment yes.
Is that some new technical term
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JesseT
Try putting the gear in reverse. Then look from the left side to the selector under of the car. On the bottom of the cover it has an opening inside which you see the end of the gear stick (if in reverse). There is a small hole across the end of the gearstick. This hole should be in the center of the opening. Usuing a suitable tool is can also be locked to this position. Then one can slacken and reticken the selector arm and it should be spot on.
This is the correct method however it rarely works well if your selector linkage has slack in it, which by this stage in life most of them do
If there's any slack, the plastic parts don't cost that much and are still available. Or better yet, fit the Puma gear selector.
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NUTS RuS
Would suggest either a worn synchro on 4th Rallyesportoossible slight misalignment yes.
3. is worst.
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