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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 11:48 PM
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I set some records today I reckon!!!!!










I broke not 1 but 2 cars this year

And had not 1, nor 2 but 3 tow trucks to get me home



The Cossie needed 2 just for itself (the first driver has run out of hours so we had to swap trucks!



The day started well with my Cossie, my bro's Pug Mi16 and my own Pug Mi16 all making the run up to ND - car's in the garage:




After 4 sessions of 400+ bhp my Cossie gearbox died a death - I had no 4th gear to start with, but by the end had no gears at all. Exactly the same symptoms as Ford Fair



So I jumped in my track support car - the Pug Mi16 (Bought only as I know how poo my luck is with the Cossie, and because it's been so reliable all year when the Cossie has been dead) , and did 1.5 sessions before spinning the shells and buggering the bottom end completely. Surprised me as it was going well and has been really strong on track even with my car breaking driving style.



I called the RAC for the Pug and Boncaster's company for the Cossie, and both trucks were there within the hour, and arrived at the same time - VERY IMPRESSED this time.

Cossie is now home, and work will commence to swap engine and box on the Pug and a Gearbox on the Cossie.

Sorry to anyone else who was waiting for a tow truck - I had them all!

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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 11:54 PM
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thats unlucky mate
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sidewayz
thats unlucky mate
Fast Ford called me Unlucky Man in their Nurburgring Review - so I reckon you could be right
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 12:06 AM
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Runs in the family too....



Just after we had cleaned all your oil up in the pit garage the other one came out in sympathy
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 12:09 AM
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My bro's Pug - ALSO RELIABLE as hell in the 8 months we've owned them - thrashed on track, the Ring and road. Then all 3 dead at Donington....

Bad day for us.

Forgot to say Thanks for all your help today Tony - particularly in the pushing car game we played....

Si
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 12:57 AM
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Gutted for you Simon, hope you get them sorted, sharpish!
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 01:00 AM
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Gutted for you mate, if it wasnt for bad luck you would have no fucking luck at all.

Ive got 4 days off this weekend if you need a hand with either the pug engine swap or the cossie gearbox swap?
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 07:07 AM
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Shame Si

The car was flying in the morning.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 07:11 AM
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Ouch. It was always going to happen running an Mi16 pug on track though! The only way to stop it happening is fit a dry sump or look at different engine options!
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 07:19 AM
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Si you absolute muppet, how can you call it "bad luck" when you're pushing 400bhp through a standard gearbox , that's stupidity . Ever heard the saying "once bitten twice shy"?
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 07:27 AM
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Ouch. It was always going to happen running an Mi16 pug on track though! The only way to stop it happening is fit a dry sump or look at different engine options!
Actually, I have noticed that with the Mi-16 engine. The bottom ends do seem to break on hard driven ones.Have they got a weak point with regards to oil supply or is it one of the cars that particularly benefits from a baffled sump?
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 07:30 AM
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Well at least you had some fun before they died

Hope you sort it all out soon.

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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 08:06 AM
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Comedy!

Maybe you should give up and go back to bikes!
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 08:18 AM
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Si

at least you got a bit of use out of it , as for the pug thats sounds like it needs a new engine (death rattle )

we had a good little battle

your brother and lee had a good little battle towards the end of the day

i hope you sort both of theses cars out
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 09:34 AM
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bad luck si hope you het them sorted fast
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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Oh bad luck hun for all 3 cars to go home that way!!!

I was wondering if you were about but i only saw the track action in the afternoon as was far too hungover to move in the morning
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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Could anyone tell me who Boncaster is? Burrows od Derby have towed me before as i used to live there.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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look at the plus side....you must of saved a shed load of money on petrol for the trip home from all your track days this year
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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gutted all 3 cars at the same time
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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Boncaster are the R.S.O.C. insurance people
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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Sketch told me all in the afternoon - gutted mate, that's pretty harsh
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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Just to clarify, Si only broke 2 cars (cossie and 1 x 205 mi16). I broke my 205 mi16 as well, although nothing serious!

Hopefully he'll get a Fixit in the cossie and then it should remain a weapon for longer than a couple of sessions
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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i head the pug limping off the track, said to the snapper oh dear, big ends is it.

didnt know about the cossie until this morning tho.

fucking expensive weekend then si!
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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Ouch. It was always going to happen running an Mi16 pug on track though! The only way to stop it happening is fit a dry sump or look at different engine options!
Actually, I have noticed that with the Mi-16 engine. The bottom ends do seem to break on hard driven ones.Have they got a weak point with regards to oil supply or is it one of the cars that particularly benefits from a baffled sump?
Even baffled sumps wont solve the problem on the Mi16 engine. Lots of people on the 205 forum experience oil surge when driving on the road on road tyres (e.g. 0psi oil pressure going when going round bends )

Apparently the problem is to do with it retaining oil in the head and so there basically isn't enough oil in the sump! You can start drilling out the head to drain faster, or fit a bigger sump, with baffles and an extended oil pickup pipe which apparently works. Or spend about 2k on a dry sump conversion

The GTi-6 engine doesn't have this problem but it is an iron block compared to the Mi16's alloy so put more weight up front
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil
Apparently the problem is to do with it retaining oil in the head
SiB's didn't have that problem, well I suppose it sort of did.

Most of it was retained on the bulk head, I did express my concern
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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Shit News mate hope you get them sorted asap
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