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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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Nah, they are only too high if you treat them as a target and drive like a twat.
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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some tiny lil single lane b-roads are national speed limit, which is fucking madness, so yeah.

ive nearly been hit tons of times
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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On some roads, it is.. especially single country lanes where you cant see fook all coming..
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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so will all country lanes be 40mph soon then
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 04:45 PM
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It is too high on some roads where you cannot see far ahead, side turnings, poor lighting at night not to mention fox's popping out of every other bush

Thing is most cars not supped up so the law goto cater for everyone also all types of car, bike and caravan
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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If taken with concideration i think its fine.

I think lack of road signs indicating layouts can be more to blame, if people knew these side roads etc were coming up you can change your speed accordingly. A mate of mine had a crash on one last week and that was due to worn markings and lack of signs. Talking to other people, a few feel the same. The roads arn't maintained like urban roads
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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Since when did anyone take notice of speed limits.
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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Really can't be arsed with it all anymore why don't they fit my car with a magic box that drives the cunting thing itself, sticks to speed limits etc etc so I can put my feet up and read porn mags whilst i'm in the car......
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What a crock of shit...

What happened to "driving with due consideration of the prevailing conditions" - if everyone did that there would be little need for speed limits as such anywhere. If you can't see because the road has a bend, or is too narrow to pass two cars, then f**ing slow down to a speed
that is appropriate to deal with hazards arising! How hard is that to grasp??
Unfortunately a large proportion of the population is too thick to comprehend this simple concept, so the rest of us have to put up with enforced nannny state that does little to solve the problem anyway, as the knobs will still carry on regardless of a sign stuck in the hedge





rant over...
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Originally Posted by richm
What a crock of shit...

What happened to "driving with due consideration of the prevailing conditions" - if everyone did that there would be little need for speed limits as such anywhere. If you can't see because the road has a bend, or is too narrow to pass two cars, then f**ing slow down to a speed
that is appropriate to deal with hazards arising! How hard is that to grasp??
Unfortunately a large proportion of the population is too thick to comprehend this simple concept, so the rest of us have to put up with enforced nannny state that does little to solve the problem anyway, as the knobs will still carry on regardless of a sign stuck in the hedge





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Thank's for saving me the bother of typing that Rich. My sentiments exactly
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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it looks like car manufacturers will soon be able to sell a car with a gearbox which has only only 2 gears, most people won't know what to do with the other 3 or 4 in a few years time.

I drove in the country most of the past 40 years, (since I was 10 yrs old), most serious accidents involved people from the city on a day out. Other accidents were caused by drivers from the continent.

Local drivers did have bumps but were less serious.


Why does the government not respond with one of those fast decisions and reduce all speed limits to,
Motorways 50mph.
A roads 40mph.
B roads and towns 20mph.

think of all the fuel saved. (not).

how happy would the anti car lobby be then.

Lorries and buses would of course be limited to some ridiculous limit like 10. This means they could stop pretty much no matter who stepped out in front of them.

In fact why not go with the Red Flag out in front again.


Please be careful in the kitchen tonight, there are a lot of sharp objects in there. Watch out for all the signposts showing where all the glass is.

walk don't run.


And what about that report.
60% of motorists can't drive let alone answer questions about driving.

motorists find it difficult to drive on country roads, unbef***inglievable.


this is fun this site...
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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Just because its a 60mph limit doesn't mean you have to drive at 60mph

What a crock of shite!!!!

I had to ride my motorbike down the motorway at 25-30mph a few weeks back beacuse of the torrential rain! [Along with all the other traffic on the motorway]. Does that mean all Motorway speed limits should be 30mph??
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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well said richm, most of the people surveyed didnt know what the national speed limit is, that explains to me why i drive down a single carriageway in the country following a queue of cars all going at 25mph..
have you ever wondered why when you go to the coast at a weekend that all of a sudden you have a 25mile tailback of slow moving cars ? its because a few grey haired pensioners at the front of the queue believe that the national speed limit is 30mph !!!. my belief is that if you catch a pensioner who doesnt know the highway code backwards then its your right to kneecap them, this report is so full of shit, typical of direct line who support non claimants, in other words lets reduce the whole speed limit to around 20 mph then we would hardly have any claims to pay.
i quote"Two in three motorists did not know the rural road speed limit, with more than half saying that routes in the country need more speed signs." there is nothing else to add except if they didnt didnt know the speed limits in the first place then why do they now want a reduction ?cheers nomad
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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Oh this shit again, how fun
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by richm
What a crock of shit...

What happened to "driving with due consideration of the prevailing conditions" - if everyone did that there would be little need for speed limits as such anywhere. If you can't see because the road has a bend, or is too narrow to pass two cars, then f**ing slow down to a speed
that is appropriate to deal with hazards arising! How hard is that to grasp??
Unfortunately a large proportion of the population is too thick to comprehend this simple concept, so the rest of us have to put up with enforced nannny state that does little to solve the problem anyway, as the knobs will still carry on regardless of a sign stuck in the hedge





rant over...
Well said
I use B roads for the good part of my journey every day in my Escort Cossie, and I drive according to the road conditions. But saying that I hardly meet anyone on there except for the twat drunk that comes out of the pub and drives at 20MPH all the way home taking the back roads. No jokes it’s the same guy all the time in a Ford Probe, weaving his way home. Cunt….
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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"Major" country roads are OK at 60, theres a few roads I drive regulary which are twisty, but are well marked out and wide and it's quite easy to drive at 60 and screech round the corners on 2 wheels doing 60 as well (my Seat Cordoba has absolutly no grip at all and screeches on corners from 30mph onwards )

As said though, on some of the single track roads where you can see fuck all, the limit should be dropped. Nothing worse than driving along sensibly, going round a bend to find some twat teararsing up the road towards you at 60 then having to slam the brakes on when they realise theres a car in front of them
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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we still aren't getting it are we??
You don't "HAVE" to drive at 60 just because that is the "speed limit" - just drive according to the f**ing conditions!! Sticking a 20mph sign in the hedge won't change the "twat teararsing up the road towards you at 60 then having to slam the brakes on when they realise theres a car in front of them " - they will still be a twat, speed limit or not, because they will come within the percentage that are too thick to grasp it... and we still give them a driving license.. then have to dumb down the whole system to accomodate them
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Gotta admit I drive down the narrowest of backlanes at speeds that scare the shit out of most of the people who come in a car with me. However I only ever drive to what I see and following that you should never come into trouble. I know my limits and I stick to them.

It's not the speed limits or the roads its the people behind the wheels of the car.

If people arent comfortable driving at speeds down country lanes they wont. It's the stupid cunts who think theyre colin mcrae and speed down back lanes flying round blind bends etc that are dangerous. These people shouldnt have licenses in the first place.
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
Gotta admit I drive down the narrowest of backlanes at speeds that scare the shit out of most of the people who come in a car with me. However I only ever drive to what I see and following that you should never come into trouble. I know my limits and I stick to them.

It's not the speed limits or the roads its the people behind the wheels of the car.

If people arent comfortable driving at speeds down country lanes they wont. It's the stupid cunts who think theyre colin mcrae and speed down back lanes flying round blind bends etc that are dangerous. These people shouldnt have licenses in the first place.
No niether should by the sounds of it

That's the kind of attitude that causes the accidents in the first place, It don't matter how well you can drive you've still gotta drive for the other idiots around you, who don't see you coming. Or even the dear, fox or rabbit that pops out the bush when least expected!!
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Originally Posted by Bodge22
Originally Posted by 89XR2
Gotta admit I drive down the narrowest of backlanes at speeds that scare the shit out of most of the people who come in a car with me. However I only ever drive to what I see and following that you should never come into trouble. I know my limits and I stick to them.

It's not the speed limits or the roads its the people behind the wheels of the car.

If people arent comfortable driving at speeds down country lanes they wont. It's the stupid cunts who think theyre colin mcrae and speed down back lanes flying round blind bends etc that are dangerous. These people shouldnt have licenses in the first place.
No niether should by the sounds of it
Because I know how to drive I shouldnt have a license?
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
Gotta admit I drive down the narrowest of backlanes at speeds that scare the shit out of most of the people who come in a car with me. However I only ever drive to what I see and following that you should never come into trouble. I know my limits and I stick to them.

It's not the speed limits or the roads its the people behind the wheels of the car.

If people arent comfortable driving at speeds down country lanes they wont. It's the stupid cunts who think theyre colin mcrae and speed down back lanes flying round blind bends etc that are dangerous. These people shouldnt have licenses in the first place.
No niether should by the sounds of it
Because I know how to drive I shouldnt have a license?
NO, and if you think it's acceptable to drive like that it don't sound like you'll have one for long anyway
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Agree with richm..

We shouldn't need speed restrictions every 200 metres, we should be able to drive safely by ourselves. If it's safe and there is space, accelerate..if it is narrow and there are cars..brake..

Problem is, whether you are driving at 30 or 55, if somebody flies round the corner at 65 on your side of the road and knocks into you..no 30/40mph restriction would have been any use whatsoever...

I think there should be small IQ tests inside the car before you can set off..if you can't pass the simple exam, the engine won't start
could get rid of a few drunks and idiots before they can tear about
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
Gotta admit I drive down the narrowest of backlanes at speeds that scare the shit out of most of the people who come in a car with me. However I only ever drive to what I see and following that you should never come into trouble. I know my limits and I stick to them.

It's not the speed limits or the roads its the people behind the wheels of the car.

If people arent comfortable driving at speeds down country lanes they wont. It's the stupid cunts who think theyre colin mcrae and speed down back lanes flying round blind bends etc that are dangerous. These people shouldnt have licenses in the first place.
No niether should by the sounds of it
Because I know how to drive I shouldnt have a license?
NO, and if you think it's acceptable to drive like that it don't sound like you'll have one for long anyway
I think it's perfectly acceptable to drive to what I see. And to drive at a speed limit that the conditions allow. I've had my license for 8 years and never had an accident or points (touch wood) and I was taught to drive on country roads and had a very good teacher so I don't think you know what you're talking about
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Originally Posted by Bodge22
Originally Posted by 89XR2
Originally Posted by Bodge22
Originally Posted by 89XR2
Gotta admit I drive down the narrowest of backlanes at speeds that scare the shit out of most of the people who come in a car with me. However I only ever drive to what I see and following that you should never come into trouble. I know my limits and I stick to them.

It's not the speed limits or the roads its the people behind the wheels of the car.

If people arent comfortable driving at speeds down country lanes they wont. It's the stupid cunts who think theyre colin mcrae and speed down back lanes flying round blind bends etc that are dangerous. These people shouldnt have licenses in the first place.
No niether should by the sounds of it
Because I know how to drive I shouldnt have a license?
NO, and if you think it's acceptable to drive like that it don't sound like you'll have one for long anyway
Mate i love it how you're pretending you've never been over any speed limit in your Focus RS!
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
Originally Posted by Bodge22
Originally Posted by 89XR2
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
Gotta admit I drive down the narrowest of backlanes at speeds that scare the shit out of most of the people who come in a car with me. However I only ever drive to what I see and following that you should never come into trouble. I know my limits and I stick to them.

It's not the speed limits or the roads its the people behind the wheels of the car.

If people arent comfortable driving at speeds down country lanes they wont. It's the stupid cunts who think theyre colin mcrae and speed down back lanes flying round blind bends etc that are dangerous. These people shouldnt have licenses in the first place.
No niether should by the sounds of it
Because I know how to drive I shouldnt have a license?
NO, and if you think it's acceptable to drive like that it don't sound like you'll have one for long anyway
I think it's perfectly acceptable to drive to what I see. And to drive at a speed limit that the conditions allow. I've had my license for 8 years and never had an accident or points (touch wood) and I was taught to drive on country roads and had a very good teacher so I don't think you know what you're talking about
Got to agree with you mate, if you know the roads and your only driving within your limits then providing the conditions are ok then it shouldn't be a problem.

It's the idiots who push too hard and don't take the conditions into account
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We need to adopt the irish rule that states you must be able to stop within the distance you see to be clear.

If people followed that simple principle and the 2 second rule there would be half the problems on country lanes and motorways.

And shoot all those cunts driving at 20mph in a 60 in good dry conditons, and those pricks who stick in the middle lane of a motorway whatever is happening around them.
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warrenpenalver for prime minister!
Thanks!

I wouldn't last long because I would do what I think would be in the best interests of the Nation, not what will gain votes or popularity in the short term.

It would be bloody in the short term, but 10 years down the road you'd thank me for it.....
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Originally Posted by Katie
I think there should be small IQ tests inside the car before you can set off..if you can't pass the simple exam, the engine won't start
could get rid of a few drunks and idiots before they can tear about
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
Gotta admit I drive down the narrowest of backlanes at speeds that scare the shit out of most of the people who come in a car with me. However I only ever drive to what I see and following that you should never come into trouble. I know my limits and I stick to them.

It's not the speed limits or the roads its the people behind the wheels of the car.

If people arent comfortable driving at speeds down country lanes they wont. It's the stupid cunts who think theyre colin mcrae and speed down back lanes flying round blind bends etc that are dangerous. These people shouldnt have licenses in the first place.
No niether should by the sounds of it
Because I know how to drive I shouldnt have a license?
NO, and if you think it's acceptable to drive like that it don't sound like you'll have one for long anyway
Mate i love it how you're pretending you've never been over any speed limit in your Focus RS!
Why would i have to pretend? Just coz i've got an RS means i have to speed all the time does it errr NOOOOOO
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
Gotta admit I drive down the narrowest of backlanes at speeds that scare the shit out of most of the people who come in a car with me. However I only ever drive to what I see and following that you should never come into trouble. I know my limits and I stick to them.

It's not the speed limits or the roads its the people behind the wheels of the car.

If people arent comfortable driving at speeds down country lanes they wont. It's the stupid cunts who think theyre colin mcrae and speed down back lanes flying round blind bends etc that are dangerous. These people shouldnt have licenses in the first place.
No niether should by the sounds of it
Because I know how to drive I shouldnt have a license?
NO, and if you think it's acceptable to drive like that it don't sound like you'll have one for long anyway
I think it's perfectly acceptable to drive to what I see. And to drive at a speed limit that the conditions allow. I've had my license for 8 years and never had an accident or points (touch wood) and I was taught to drive on country roads and had a very good teacher so I don't think you know what you're talking about
Ok mate, i don't know what i'm talking about, rules of the road must have changed since i took my test

I just hope your luck holds out, and some poor innocent 3rd party doesn't have to pay for your gun hoo attitude
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I take not notice of the speed limits on rural roads as there are no police about, i just drive to the conditions, which may be a lot higher or a lot lower than the speed limit.
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Mate i know 89XR2 in real life and he is not some 'gung ho'
prick.

Alright he is sometimes a cunt

Nah in all serious he knows what he's doing and is a generally sound bloke.
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
Originally Posted by Bodge22
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Originally Posted by Bodge22
Originally Posted by 89XR2
Gotta admit I drive down the narrowest of backlanes at speeds that scare the shit out of most of the people who come in a car with me. However I only ever drive to what I see and following that you should never come into trouble. I know my limits and I stick to them.

It's not the speed limits or the roads its the people behind the wheels of the car.

If people arent comfortable driving at speeds down country lanes they wont. It's the stupid cunts who think theyre colin mcrae and speed down back lanes flying round blind bends etc that are dangerous. These people shouldnt have licenses in the first place.
No niether should by the sounds of it
Because I know how to drive I shouldnt have a license?
NO, and if you think it's acceptable to drive like that it don't sound like you'll have one for long anyway
I think it's perfectly acceptable to drive to what I see. And to drive at a speed limit that the conditions allow. I've had my license for 8 years and never had an accident or points (touch wood) and I was taught to drive on country roads and had a very good teacher so I don't think you know what you're talking about
Ok mate, i don't know what i'm talking about, rules of the road must have changed since i took my test

I just hope your luck holds out, and some poor innocent 3rd party doesn't have to pay for your gun hoo attitude
Seriously, you have no idea as to how good or bad a driver I am. I'm not sitting here insulting your driving now am I? As chip says. I drive to what the conditions allow me to. If I can't see what's around the next corner then i'll go round it really slowly, however if its nice and flat and open then I'll go round the corner as fast as the road conditions and car i'm in will let me.

I don't have a "gung ho" attitude to driving as you like to put it. I stick to ALL speedlimits. The only time i EVER really exceed the speedlimit is on country roads when it's safe to do so. I drive extremely calmly and everything is calculated and thought about. If my heart rate starts rising then it means i'm driving faster than i'm comfortable and i'll slow down. I DONT think i'm nigel mansell and I wouldnt even call myself a good driver. Colin Mcrae, jason plato etc are good drivers. However I know what my limits are and I stick well within them.

If you cant understand how to drive on country roads then I think you're one of the people who needs lower speed limits.

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I've had a couple of real scares recently in the cossie...

Driving on a road I know really well... its normally really quiet so driving, using the full width of the road at about 50 - 60 mph

Rounded a bend and there was a woman leading a horse on my side and three cars crawling past her coming towards me and I had no where to go...

Luckily I managed to stop.

Had I been doing another 10 mph more or been a second or two earlier it would have been carnage...

No ones fault..

She had the right to be there, I had the right to be doing the speed I was.

SO now I just take it that bit easier... but had the timing been different and I was only doing 40 I would have still probably hit her and it would have been corned beef sandwiches all round.


Next time I was coming back from a job in potters bar, it was dark and I was hooning along the A600 to Bedford and came round a bend and my headlights just lit up a deer at the side of the road..... luckily the noise of the cossie etc he just stood perfectly still, but had he bolted that could have been rather nasty...

Although the sandwiches would have been of better quality.....
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Guess it all depends on what you regard as road conditions.

Some people I know drive as fast as the road allows them, they consider the tightness of the bend the road surface and the weather.

But they don't consider the fact the fact there may be a hedge cutting tractor stopped part way round it.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by neilm
I've had a couple of real scares recently in the cossie...

Driving on a road I know really well... its normally really quiet so driving, using the full width of the road at about 50 - 60 mph

Rounded a bend and there was a woman leading a horse on my side and three cars crawling past her coming towards me and I had no where to go...

Luckily I managed to stop.

Had I been doing another 10 mph more or been a second or two earlier it would have been carnage...

No ones fault..

She had the right to be there, I had the right to be doing the speed I was.

SO now I just take it that bit easier... but had the timing been different and I was only doing 40 I would have still probably hit her and it would have been corned beef sandwiches all round.


Next time I was coming back from a job in potters bar, it was dark and I was hooning along the A600 to Bedford and came round a bend and my headlights just lit up a deer at the side of the road..... luckily the noise of the cossie etc he just stood perfectly still, but had he bolted that could have been rather nasty...

Although the sandwiches would have been of better quality.....
See I totally agree with you neil. And I think Bodge has totally misunderstood my original statement.

Your incident with the horse, you said yourself you know the road well and know how fast you can drive on it. That's why I said I drive to what I see. One of the first things I was taught when I was learning to drive was to drive to what I see, not to what I know. It's something that was drilled into me and the idea has stuck. I approach ever corner like it's the first time i've ever been round it. Even if i KNOW I can drive round a corner at say 70mph but I can't see far enough round it to be able to stop if I come into a problem i'll back off and drive round it at a safe speed.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
Even if i KNOW I can drive round a corner at say 70mph but I can't see far enough round it to be able to stop if I come into a problem i'll back off and drive round it at a safe speed.
That's spot on imo
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