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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 09:15 AM
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i have a 1988 van fitted with a s2 engine,is it possible to fit a air/fuel ratio gauge as the van doesent have Lambda sensor?
if it is possible please could someone explain how?or what bits i might need?
Have the gauge already made by autogauge

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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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Indeed it is, but you have to buy and fit a lambda sensor.

You'll have to spend a good couple of hundred getting a good air/fuel monitor though otherwise its not worth it
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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Thanks for the reply bud,
so if i brought a lambda sensor (for any ford,do they do one for the s2 rs turbo?)
I wire this straight into the gauge? i was told it was not possible as my ecu wouldn't support this kind of read out?
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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If you're only installing a gauge it has nothing to do with the ECU itself

HOWEVER, as i said, a cheap air/fuel ratio gauge is useless, as they are not accurate.

You are looking to spend at least £250 if you actually wnat what you see to mean anything and/or be useful in anyway

You need a wideband lambda, a controller, and a monitoring device that will accept the wideband signal.
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SafeChav
If you're only installing a gauge it has nothing to do with the ECU itself

HOWEVER, as i said, a cheap air/fuel ratio gauge is useless, as they are not accurate.

You are looking to spend at least £250 if you actually wnat what you see to mean anything and/or be useful in anyway

You need a wideband lambda, a controller, and a monitoring device that will accept the wideband signal.
good advice, Andy.....mucho impresso
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 10:18 AM
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heres a very good web site to look at for the right bits

http://www.turbobits.co.uk/acatalog/...io_gauges.html
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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i'm not really worried about correct readings,brought this gauge and cant take it back so seem a waste just sat in there,just want it to work and fill a hole in the dash!

was looking at a one wire lamda sensor? fixing this and the connecting to the signal wire from the gauge,would this be right?
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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Thats fair enough, be aware though the gauge won't show a consistent reading, it is normal for the gauge to skip backwards and forwards because of how the narrow band lambda outputs its signal, its basically a switch (not very good)

A single wire lambda will be awful as it hasnt even got an internal heater
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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thanks guys for all the info

three wire sensor at least then?
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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check the gotech website , download the manual , it has a section on this
i had hassles getting a 4 wire sensor to read , fitted a three wire to an autoguage meter and it works.grey is signal?(cant remeber) , one is pos wired to ignition , one is neg
not accurate , but when it says lean , listen.Ask my number three ring lands!
got a fitting from a hydraulic place , used an angle grinder to grind the front of this "nut".drill and weld , fit and away you go.
from what ive seen from turbod golfs etc , this needs to be fitted as close to the turbo as possible , but not so close as to melt it
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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You want a wideband sensor, nothing else. Not a 1,2,3 or 4 wire sensor but a Bosch LSU4 sensor. Think it has a 6 wire connector. The sensor is cheap at around 40£ max, but it need a driver and a display. Around 200£ total at very cheapest. All other type sensors are only good at tuning a engine optimally for a catalysator.
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