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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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As petty prices increasing at the rate of illegal immigrants and dole scroungers; in near future i cant afford running my ST170. So no big deal to most people but i need it to commute to work (no reasonable train routes) so i loose my job an have to work local for a fraction of my current salary.

Relocating i had considered but i just cant afford too move unless its somewhere smaller and shitty like 15 floors up a council crack estate. Oil burners doubt they give real cost advantage over petrol over a quid per litre an say 50mpg still not good enough.

Last option is LPG conversion but i know sqwat about it? they more economical or just lower emmissions? pros and cons anybody?

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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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Fuel is cheaper long term - but you have to set this against the cost of fitting £1500 - £2k unless you can do it yourself.

High mileage drivers, big gas guzzlers, or low mileage people who keep their car for 30 years might see an advantage
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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why not get a 200 quid diesel,which WILL be far better than ur car on fuel! then try "alternative" fuels,speak to ur local chippy!
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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aint confident in buying a 200 quid diesel i do a 100 miles round trip to work and reliability is up most to me.

Besides just found out LPG means i get away with congestion charge, lower tax band but some sites say tax is frozen until 2009, some say 2012 and other says it aint frozen at all?
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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i'd deffo get a diesel mate, atm where i am diesel & petrol is the same price soo the 50 mpg from a diesel would be better than a 25mpg from a st170.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NUTS RuS
Fuel is cheaper long term - but you have to set this against the cost of fitting £1500 - £2k unless you can do it yourself.

High mileage drivers, big gas guzzlers, or low mileage people who keep their car for 30 years might see an advantage
That will be mine then But with out it i cant do marshalling @ the off road clubs or tow the cossie when it break if it ever gets back on the road )

But your right its alot to layout i would love to d it but the founds are not there to do it so i'll have to keep with my ave 15mpg @ 98.9p
Its a bloody joke this country
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 10:20 PM
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How many miles a year do you expect to do ?

The kits do pay for themselves quicker than you think.

You will lose a few mpg on gas but obviously the fuel is less than half the price of petrol, there is apparently a small loss in power but I've not noticed anything myself.

Drop me a PM if your serious on a conversion
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 10:32 PM
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Im thinking of going down this route...

As im spending over £150 a week on fuel....in my vectra 1.8.... Just over 1200 miles :O
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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Mondeo TD, pick one up for 400-700 quid.

Extremly reliable and very good on fuel. Cheap as hell to insure too

Lets you keep the ST for enjoying
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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What do kits retail for these days? Looked into them a while back, very interested again now with a possible run-about change this summer.

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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
How many miles a year do you expect to do ?

The kits do pay for themselves quicker than you think.

You will lose a few mpg on gas but obviously the fuel is less than half the price of petrol, there is apparently a small loss in power but I've not noticed anything myself.

Drop me a PM if your serious on a conversion
cant you spill the beans here mate?
Im interested in this for our next family car. Have you had it done or can you fit the system?
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 09:13 AM
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i'm looking into this too,

the new LPi installations promise to be the bollox, they read the injector pulse from the original car system. so no more error codes or power loss.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
How many miles a year do you expect to do ?

The kits do pay for themselves quicker than you think.

You will lose a few mpg on gas but obviously the fuel is less than half the price of petrol, there is apparently a small loss in power but I've not noticed anything myself.

Drop me a PM if your serious on a conversion
average do 25,000 mile a year; just commuting to work

25,000 mile @ 25mpg @ £1 per litre = give up
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Joris_FRST
i'm looking into this too,

the new LPi installations promise to be the bollox, they read the injector pulse from the original car system. so no more error codes or power loss.
This is all we fit

old single point kits are a thing of the past

25 k a year makes it a well worthy conversion.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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heres a link to the website for who I work for

www.gastech.org.uk

You can look through what is done on a conversion and rough prices on certain vehicles listed. The list of cars that can be done is huge so its best to fill in the quotation form and you will get a reply.



I apoligise if this is against PF rules to advertise
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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Cheers Johnny
Its for an X5 i was thinking about so it gives me a price idea for now
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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mykit paid for itself within 6 journeys on my van - well worth it, had it for nearly 4 years now, hardly ever use petrol - infact the vans needed a new petrol pump for 6 months now i think about it !!
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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No Probs Lambchop

X5's are a nice car anyway but horrific on petrol, tbh need to be gassed with the price of fuel these days.
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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Its a very good idea but stumping up £2000 is impossible for me, the gov only helps businesses too the bastards
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CJBear
Its a very good idea but stumping up £2000 is impossible for me, the gov only helps businesses too the bastards
the government does not help businesses one bit, i should know, if your in employment then you get a way alot lighter than if you own your own business trust me
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 05:30 PM
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No grants currently available for alternative fuels in vehicles whenther business or private.

If yours is a company car I'm not sure if your BiK will go down after you fit an aftermarket LPG kit - I suspect not.

If it is a leased car, the owners may not be happy about you fitting an aftermarket kit - best get their OK in writing before spending any money.

Similarly, not sure what the script will be with your London Congestion charge - it would be too easy for folks to stick an extra fuel cap on the wing and tell TFL the car has been converted!!!

And unless the law has changed, forget about taking your car through the Channel Tunnel (or any of the major UK tunnels) - don't know why, but the gas tanks weren't/aren't legal in there!!
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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This answered some questions

http://portal.est.org.uk/fleet/Vehic...tivefuels/LPG/
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by david
Mondeo TD, pick one up for 400-700 quid.

Extremly reliable and very good on fuel. Cheap as hell to insure too

Lets you keep the ST for enjoying
that what i got - even took it to germany during the world cup - did 1700 miles of pure abuse and the car didnt miss a beat
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